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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=589322604-19012012>Mr Bergman,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><A
href="http://www.healthyheating.com/Definitions/Mean%20Radiant.htm">http://www.healthyheating.com/Definitions/Mean%20Radiant.htm</A></FONT></DIV>
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size=2 face=Arial>Another link to a site that expresses thermal issues of
dwelling in terms of contact with the earth and everything
above.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=589322604-19012012><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Very easy to follow the formulas associated with
calculating materials and their thermal properties as they relate to external
factors.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=589322604-19012012><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Might give a boost towards a solution for
you.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2 face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Doug Lamb</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT size=2 face=Arial><A
href="mailto:douglaslamb@columbus.rr.com">douglaslamb@columbus.rr.com</A></FONT></DIV>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B>
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[mailto:greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>David Bergman<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 18, 2012 8:45
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Green Building<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Greenbuilding] Hot3000 -
License Expiry message?<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Is there an article or review somewhere that compares the
applications for and functionality of these programs?<BR><BR>While I'm asking,
similar question regarding building LCA software.....<BR><BR>David Bergman
RA LEED AP<BR><FONT color=#808080 size=2><B>DAVID BERGMAN</B>
ARCHITECT / <B>FIRE & WATER</B> LIGHTING + FURNITURE<BR></FONT><FONT
color=#808080>architecture . interiors . </FONT><FONT
color=#008080>ecodesign</FONT><FONT color=#808080> . lighting .
furniture<BR></FONT><FONT color=#808080
size=2>bergman@cyberg.com <A href="http://www.cyberg.com/"
eudora="autourl"><U>www.cyberg.com</A> </U></FONT><FONT
color=#808080><BR></FONT><FONT color=#808080 size=2>241 Eldridge Street #3R, New
York, NY 10002<BR></FONT><FONT color=#808080>t </FONT><FONT color=#808080
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<BR><BR></FONT>At 08:27 PM 1/18/2012, Douglas E Lamb wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite">I love the educational value of
this site. <BR>Learn something new every day!<BR>Nist BEES may have the same
combined building material techniques for<BR>permafrost conditions.<BR>I
thought Onset would have some software to translate such conditions, but<BR>no
go.<BR>I'll check out NERL.<BR><BR>Regards,<BR>Doug
Lamb<BR>douglaslamb@columbus.rr.com<BR> <BR><BR>-----Original
Message-----<BR>From: greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org<BR>[<A
href="mailto:greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org" eudora="autourl">
mailto:greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</A>] On Behalf Of
Stuart<BR>Fix<BR>Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 7:39 PM<BR>To: Green
Building<BR>Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] Hot3000 - License Expiry
message?<BR><BR>Agreed the PHPP isn't the best choice for accuracy, I use
IES<ve> in that<BR>case. I find PHPP really shines on quick comparative
analysis. In John's<BR>case, you could grab a few slab & footing designs,
use THERM to calculate<BR>each edge performance accurately (thermal bridge,
linear PSI value), and<BR>then throw the open area Uvalue & PSI into PHPP
to quickly compare the<BR>overall performance of each.<BR><BR>I'm not familiar
with HOT3000, but to do what I described in IES<ve> would<BR>be much
more time consuming than in PHPP, and if you're more interested
in<BR>selecting the best design than in an accurate annual performance
prediction,<BR>PHPP is my choice.<BR><BR>Can you enter custom slab edge
effects in HOT3000?<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR><BR>Stuart Fix, P.Eng., LEEDŽ AP<BR>PHI
Certified Passive House Designer<BR>MASc. Building Science<BR>Mechanical
Engineer<BR>ReNü Building Science Inc.<BR><BR>#206, 506B St. Albert Trail |
St. Albert, Alberta | T8N 5Z1 | C.<BR>780.554.8192 |
sfix@renubuildings.com<BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: John
Straube [<A href="mailto:jfstraube@uwaterloo.ca" eudora="autourl">
mailto:jfstraube@uwaterloo.ca</A>]<BR>Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 5:10
PM<BR>To: Green Building<BR>Cc: Stuart Fix<BR>Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding]
Hot3000 - License Expiry message?<BR><BR>HOT3000 is an hourly model that uses
actual hourly weather files and a true<BR>mass and energy balance. This allows
it to be much more accurate if such<BR>accuracy is required.<BR>The monthly
average method used by PHPP is quite an approximation and<BR>requires fudge
factors to get close to the right answer. I have often heard<BR>it
claimed to be "the most sophisticate" or "the most accurate", but I
have<BR>never seen these claims substantiated. PHPP's best feature is
its<BR>simpleness and transparency (features I value very highly), but it is
not<BR>that sophisticated. Never use it for detail design myself, just
for initial<BR>scoping design.<BR>THERM is needed for most energy modeling
programs to get the R-value of<BR>details right.<BR>WINDOW or similar is
useful to get true window U-value.<BR><BR><BR><BR>On 12-01-18 6:48 PM, Stuart
Fix wrote:<BR>> Hi John,<BR>><BR>> Can't help you with your Hot3000
issues, but I'd recommend the Passive <BR>> House Planning Package (PHPP)
paired with THERM as the best combo out <BR>> there for modeling the
effects of slab details.<BR>><BR>> Cheers,<BR>><BR>> Stuart Fix,
P.Eng., LEEDŽ AP<BR>> PHI Certified Passive House Designer<BR>> MASc.
Building Science<BR>> Mechanical Engineer<BR>> ReNü Building Science
Inc.<BR>><BR>> #206, 506B St. Albert Trail | St. Albert, Alberta | T8N
5Z1 | C.<BR>> 780.554.8192 | sfix@renubuildings.com<BR>><BR>>
-----Original Message-----<BR>> From:
greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org<BR>> [<A
href="mailto:greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org" eudora="autourl">
mailto:greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</A>] On Behalf Of
<BR>> John O'Brien<BR>> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 4:44
PM<BR>> To: greenbuilding@lists.bioenergylists.org<BR>> Subject:
[Greenbuilding] Hot3000 - License Expiry message?<BR>><BR>> Was just
playing around with Hot2000 today, figured I'd try out <BR>> Hot3000, but
it appears to be dead in the water. Error message from <BR>> H2kCore -
Hot2000 license has expired. Contact NRCAN.<BR>><BR>> No contact info,
and the bug report links are all dead. Anyone <BR>> encountered this
issue.<BR>><BR>> On another note, is it possible to model a fully foam
wrapped slab on <BR>> grade in Hot2000.<BR>><BR>>
Cheers,<BR>><BR>> John<BR>><BR>>
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