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--></style></head><body lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Hi David,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">There are a few academic papers that compare simulation software, but they’re quite heady and focus more on the technical rigor of each in various calculations and less on user application in a non-research setting. Other than that you’ll have to rely on what Googling locates, there are a few comparisons out there. I don’t recall where they were though so I’m not very helpful..</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I think one of the main challenges is that these software packages are changing so rapidly that it’s hard to take a snapshot and stick with it.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Cheers,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Stuart Fix, P.Eng., LEED® AP<br>
PHI Certified Passive House Designer<br>MASc. Building Science<br>Mechanical Engineer<br><a href="http://www.renubuildingscience.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:#ff6600">ReNü Building Science Inc.</span></a><br><br>
#206, 506B St. Albert Trail | St. Albert, Alberta | T8N 5Z1 | C. 780.554.8192 | <a href="mailto:sfix@renubuildings.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:#ff6600">sfix@renubuildings.com</span></a></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org">greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org">greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>David Bergman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 18, 2012 6:45 PM<br><b>To:</b> Green Building<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Greenbuilding] Hot3000 - License Expiry message?</span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal">Is there an article or review somewhere that compares the applications for and functionality of these programs?<br>
<br>While I'm asking, similar question regarding building LCA software.....<br><br>David Bergman RA LEED AP<br><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:gray">DAVID BERGMAN</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:gray"> ARCHITECT / <b>FIRE & WATER</b> LIGHTING + FURNITURE<br>
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<br></span>At 08:27 PM 1/18/2012, Douglas E Lamb wrote:<br><br></p><p class="MsoNormal">I love the educational value of this site. <br>Learn something new every day!<br>Nist BEES may have the same combined building material techniques for<br>
permafrost conditions.<br>I thought Onset would have some software to translate such conditions, but<br>no go.<br>I'll check out NERL.<br><br>Regards,<br>Doug Lamb<br><a href="mailto:douglaslamb@columbus.rr.com">douglaslamb@columbus.rr.com</a><br>
<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href="mailto:greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org">greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</a><br>[<a href="mailto:greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org"> mailto:greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>] On Behalf Of Stuart<br>
Fix<br>Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 7:39 PM<br>To: Green Building<br>Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] Hot3000 - License Expiry message?<br><br>Agreed the PHPP isn't the best choice for accuracy, I use IES<ve> in that<br>
case. I find PHPP really shines on quick comparative analysis. In John's<br>case, you could grab a few slab & footing designs, use THERM to calculate<br>each edge performance accurately (thermal bridge, linear PSI value), and<br>
then throw the open area Uvalue & PSI into PHPP to quickly compare the<br>overall performance of each.<br><br>I'm not familiar with HOT3000, but to do what I described in IES<ve> would<br>be much more time consuming than in PHPP, and if you're more interested in<br>
selecting the best design than in an accurate annual performance prediction,<br>PHPP is my choice.<br><br>Can you enter custom slab edge effects in HOT3000?<br><br>Cheers,<br><br>Stuart Fix, P.Eng., LEED® AP<br>PHI Certified Passive House Designer<br>
MASc. Building Science<br>Mechanical Engineer<br>ReNü Building Science Inc.<br><br>#206, 506B St. Albert Trail | St. Albert, Alberta | T8N 5Z1 | C.<br>780.554.8192 | <a href="mailto:sfix@renubuildings.com">sfix@renubuildings.com</a><br>
<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: John Straube [<a href="mailto:jfstraube@uwaterloo.ca"> mailto:jfstraube@uwaterloo.ca</a>]<br>Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 5:10 PM<br>To: Green Building<br>Cc: Stuart Fix<br>
Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] Hot3000 - License Expiry message?<br><br>HOT3000 is an hourly model that uses actual hourly weather files and a true<br>mass and energy balance. This allows it to be much more accurate if such<br>
accuracy is required.<br>The monthly average method used by PHPP is quite an approximation and<br>requires fudge factors to get close to the right answer. I have often heard<br>it claimed to be "the most sophisticate" or "the most accurate", but I have<br>
never seen these claims substantiated. PHPP's best feature is its<br>simpleness and transparency (features I value very highly), but it is not<br>that sophisticated. Never use it for detail design myself, just for initial<br>
scoping design.<br>THERM is needed for most energy modeling programs to get the R-value of<br>details right.<br>WINDOW or similar is useful to get true window U-value.<br><br><br><br>On 12-01-18 6:48 PM, Stuart Fix wrote:<br>
> Hi John,<br>><br>> Can't help you with your Hot3000 issues, but I'd recommend the Passive <br>> House Planning Package (PHPP) paired with THERM as the best combo out <br>> there for modeling the effects of slab details.<br>
><br>> Cheers,<br>><br>> Stuart Fix, P.Eng., LEED® AP<br>> PHI Certified Passive House Designer<br>> MASc. Building Science<br>> Mechanical Engineer<br>> ReNü Building Science Inc.<br>><br>> #206, 506B St. Albert Trail | St. Albert, Alberta | T8N 5Z1 | C.<br>
> 780.554.8192 | <a href="mailto:sfix@renubuildings.com">sfix@renubuildings.com</a><br>><br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: <a href="mailto:greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org">greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</a><br>
> [<a href="mailto:greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org"> mailto:greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>] On Behalf Of <br>> John O'Brien<br>> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 4:44 PM<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:greenbuilding@lists.bioenergylists.org">greenbuilding@lists.bioenergylists.org</a><br>> Subject: [Greenbuilding] Hot3000 - License Expiry message?<br>><br>> Was just playing around with Hot2000 today, figured I'd try out <br>
> Hot3000, but it appears to be dead in the water. Error message from <br>> H2kCore - Hot2000 license has expired. Contact NRCAN.<br>><br>> No contact info, and the bug report links are all dead. Anyone <br>> encountered this issue.<br>
><br>> On another note, is it possible to model a fully foam wrapped slab on <br>> grade in Hot2000.<br>><br>> Cheers,<br>><br>> John<br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>
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