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<DIV>Sounds like a good idea. Any suggestions where to buy an inexpensive one?
The only one on amazon.com is over $30 with shipping which seems quite high. Or
if making one is quite simple, can you tell me how to do so (what materials and
such, in particular)? Thanks.</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=erin@trmiles.com
href="mailto:erin@trmiles.com">Erin Rasmussen</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, February 18, 2012 2:33 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=greenbuilding@lists.bioenergylists.org
href="mailto:greenbuilding@lists.bioenergylists.org">'Green Building'</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Greenbuilding] [BULK] Re: Question on tight
house,carbon monoxide</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: windowtext">You may want to
buy/build a pot skirt (similar to a wok support - if you've seen those). That
will help the heat transfer, I don't know about the carbon monoxide. This is a
good, if slightly technical analysis of pot skirts:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: windowtext"><A
href="http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/content/pot-skirt-investigat">http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/content/pot-skirt-investigat</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: windowtext">Very Important!!!
PLEASE keep opening your windows/doors. With no stove pipe (no above the
cooking zone ventilation to the outside), and a very tight house, those CO
readings you are seeing are depressingly normal, even in the most efficient
stoves, that's why venting is so important. Shoot, I can set off the CO
alarm at my house on my electric range in my drafty kitchen.
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: windowtext">:-) Erin
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greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org
[mailto:greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>KTOT
(g)<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, February 18, 2012 9:47 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Green
Building<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Greenbuilding] [BULK] Re: Question on tight
house, carbon monoxide<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Yes, the
canning and soup pots are larger than regular pots, significantly larger than
the circumference of the flame. No soot, however.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke" class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
title=Home-NRG@dnaco.net href="mailto:Home-NRG@dnaco.net">Bob klahn</A>
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<P style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke" class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Saturday, February
18, 2012 12:10 AM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">To:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
title=greenbuilding@lists.bioenergylists.org
href="mailto:greenbuilding@lists.bioenergylists.org">greenbuilding@lists.bioenergylists.org</A>
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<P style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke" class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Re: [Greenbuilding]
[BULK] Re: Question on tight house,carbon
monoxide<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><BR>One
other thought though, on part of the original problem (based on an assumption -
always risky, so I'll check).<BR>If the canning pot is larger than your normal
pots and pans (most seem to be), could the key to the high CO production be that
the flame is impinging on ( flaring out across) the bottom of the pot?
This will tend to reduce the combustion efficiency (in extremes even soot up the
pot bottom,educe combustion efficiency and increase the CO
production.<BR><BR>I'd expect the oven to be set to burn relatively efficiently,
so we don't hear of cooks keeling over, and produce less CO even when on for
longer times.<BR><BR>All speculation, but I bit my boot so deeply on the
last one, I had <BR>Bob Klahn<BR><BR></SPAN><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">I actually
watch them quite closely to keep them from boiling over. The CO level goes way
up before they do occasionally boil over, however, definitely. The CO level goes
up when the flames are burning properly blue. <BR><BR>No way could I have the
stove vented outside when the house was built without huge additional cost--I
had an expert builder and confirmed this at the time. Thus the alternative, a
vent with carbon filter. No, it is not against code, at least not here,
definitely. <BR><BR><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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