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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Over in the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region> kitchens are required to have “trickle”
vents of 8000 mm2 “slot opening” so as to provide both air to
breathe and combustion air for gas ranges, etc. National <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region> building Code
also requires “equivalent” air in to flue size out for any other
type of heating / burning appliance. And a CO detector ($38) in all rooms of a
home with a new solid fuel appliance. The following is an Amazon advert.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'><a
href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/First-Alert-Operated-Monoxide-Detector/dp/B002ACONUY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1329728766&sr=8-1">Buy
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>John Bone, BSc Hons, MBENg<br>
UK Building Code Official<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
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[mailto:greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Bob klahn<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 18 February 2012 06:47<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
greenbuilding@lists.bioenergylists.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Greenbuilding]
[BULK] Re: Fwd: Question on tight house, carbon monoxide</span></font><font
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On the couple of gas stoves I've had (that I can
recall) the control and adjustment seemed to vary a bit. None seemed to
have been designed with adjustment - or ease thereof - in mind. Good
luck.<br>
<br>
I believe the 100 ppm is an artifact of an old industrial
guideline. Totally wrong for a residential exposure. The real
problem is, obviously, that g as ranges are not commonly vented.<br>
<br>
Rick Karg, in <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Maine</st1:place></st1:State>,
worked up more reasonable (testing) standards for residential gas ranges, a
couple of decades ago. I believe his work is still avialable on the web,
if you search. A good CO detector/monitor would be a good thing to have
on hand while you experiment, imho. T</span></font><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>hey have
gotten relatively cheaper lately. An alternative to might be one of
the "CO Experts" detectors (about $200, a great bargain -imho- and as
sensitive as my trusty Bachrach Monoxer).<br>
<br>
Take care (in a general and literal sense, with this project).<br>
Bob Klahn.<br>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Reuben Deumling<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, February 17, 2012
3:57 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Greenbuilding <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Greenbuilding] Fwd:
Question on tight house, carbon monoxide</span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
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size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Fascinating.
<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Is
there any reason to be so (comparatively) lax about ovens? I mean isn't it a
pretty simple matter to get the fuel air mixture right, or is it more
complicated?<br>
<br>
It reminds me of the long standing rules that permit side by side & bottom
freezer refrigerators to consume more electricity per cubic foot... There's no
engineering reason to set this up that way, but there may be plenty of other
reasons to :-)<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>On
Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 1:53 PM, George J. Nesbitt <<a
href="mailto:george@houseisasystem.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send=true>george@houseisasystem.com</a>>
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size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>It'
burner design from what I understand. Historically CO testing protocols have
allowed 100ppm for stovetop burners & 300ppm for ovens before you are
"required" to take corrective action. Although lately 100ppm seems to
be used for everything.<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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