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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>In my former garage, now turned into a studio, the hot water supply is a Takagi Jr - the smallest one they make. I think it was about $600, but they may have gone up. It provides enough water for anything, one function at a time. I have NEVER had any problems with it. The location is on the other side of the wall from the sink and the shower, so it heats up immediately, very satisfactorily. Once I was able to move into the house, I put a larger Takagi in, that presumably will allow 3 functions (dishwasher, shower, washing machine) at the same time, but that was probably unnecessary, in hindsight, because the dishwasher wants all the water pressure available, and the washing machine only runs on cold water anyway, 99% of the time! I can really tell the difference that longer pipes make - the water heater sits right below my kitchen window under the sink (outside) and that is pretty “instant” but to get to the shower, it takes longer. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> I have just always wondered why it continues to fire even though the faucet has been turned off – for at least a minute, it seems, although I have never actually timed it. Does anyone have any ideas about that? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Kathy<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>San Andreas, California<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org [mailto:greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Sacie Lambertson<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 21, 2012 7:34 AM<br><b>To:</b> Green Building<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Greenbuilding] old question revisited-tankless heater<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>OK, OK re the time to get hot water comment, I erred in suggesting annoyance with this. It is an unintended side remark not relevant to my original question which is to ask for a best solution for installing a new hot water system in a cabin that will have one occupant. This is not a remote location; the plumbing is as deliberately compact as we could make it. <br><br>I toy with the idea of a passive solar hot water system because the site is highly suitable to this application, as is the main house, but cabin installation would be much easier if a holding tank doesn't have to be too large--ie it would fit in the shed in which the tankless now resides. <br><br>Alternatively can you recommend an efficient tankless? Electrically based POS would I suspect be more expensive in the long run. When we were living in the cabin we used about $50 propane every 3 mos; this being used for showers, basin, kitchen sink and cooking/2 people. Think those 100# tanks cost more now, but this is pretty inexpensive IMO.<br><br>Problem now is the larger Rinnai and Takigi cost upwards of $1000+ for a tankless that supplies a high volume of hot water/min. While very interesting, <u> I have no experience with those lesser expensive small heaters that supply around 4gal/minute </u>with a temperature rise of 45 degrees. In the winter our cold water is very cold, so I think that rise is an important #, so these small heaters, suitable for RVs and outdoor showers may not do it for us. Could you folks comment on these for regular indoor coordinated one/two person use?<br><br>Thinking out loud here, I'm wondering if I might better go to the old fashioned small usual tank heater and simply insulate it well?<br><br>Relevant comments/advice welcome.<br><br>Thanks, Sacie<br><br><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=1 width="100%" noshade style='color:#A0A0A0' align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>No virus found in this message.<br>Checked by AVG - <a href="http://www.avg.com">www.avg.com</a><br>Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2113/4822 - Release Date: 02/20/12<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>