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This sounds like a good sub-area for your blog: "Green or Good (or
Both)?"<br><br>
David<br><br>
At 10:47 AM 3/18/2012, Gennaro Brooks-Church - Eco Brooklyn wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">yea I know the harm of mass
loaded vinyl. But sometimes I like to test conventional products so I
know what I'm talking about when I offer alternatives. <br><br>
For example:<br>
Good stuff spray foam vs. Soy based spray foam. Forget the argument that
there actually isn't much soy in soy spray foam. The stuff just isn't
that good. It doesn't hold up to Good stuff spray foam.<br><br>
Water based low VOC floor glue vs. toxic glue. Water based glue basically
sucks. It has no holding power compared to toxic.<br><br>
Spray fiberglass insulation vs. cellulose. Cellulose wins hands
down.<br><br>
Toxic varnish vs. water based. Toxic is much stronger<br><br>
Toxic varnish vs tung oil. Tung oil much better...<br><br>
Etc.<br><br>
<br>
So......can anyone suggest a solution for adhering thin flooring to
MLV?<br><br>
<br><br>
Gennaro Brooks-Church<br>
Director, Eco Brooklyn Inc.<br>
Cell: 1 347 244 3016 USA<br>
<a href="http://www.EcoBrooklyn.com">www.EcoBrooklyn.com</a><br>
22 2nd St; Brooklyn, NY 11231<br><br>
<br><br>
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 2:40 PM, RT
<<a href="mailto:archilogic@yahoo.ca">archilogic@yahoo.ca</a>>
wrote:<br>
> On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 21:25:35 -0400, Gennaro Brooks-Church - Eco
Brooklyn<br>
>
<<a href="mailto:info@ecobrooklyn.com">info@ecobrooklyn.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Does anyone have suggestions for an eco glue to adhere
mahogany<br>
>> flooring to mass loaded vinyl<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> It seems more than a little incongruous to be seeking an "eco
glue" to<br>
> adhere something to vinyl.<br>
> "Vinyl" = poly vinyl chloride (PVC)<br>
><br>
> It's akin to asking about a gentle hair conditioner for bubonic<br>
> plague-carrying rats isn't it ?<br>
><br>
>
<a href="http://www.healthybuilding.net/pvc/facts.html">
http://www.healthybuilding.net/pvc/facts.html</a><br>
>
<a href="http://www.acereport.org/pvc2.html" eudora="autourl">
http://www.acereport.org/pvc2.html</a><br>
><br>
> =============== Copied material==================<br>
> ( from
<a href="http://www.ase.tufts.edu/gdae/Pubs/rp/Economics_of_PVC_revised.pdf">
http://www.ase.tufts.edu/gdae/Pubs/rp/Economics_of_PVC_revised.pdf</a><br>
> )<br>
> <br>
><br>
> "PVC poses hazards to
human health over the course of its life cycle.<br>
> PVC production
exposes workers and communities to vinyl chloride and<br>
> other toxic substances.<br>
> PVC products such as
medical equipment and children’s toys can leach<br>
> toxic additives during their useful life.<br>
> Vinyl building materials
release hydrochloric acid fumes if they<br>
> catch<br>
> fire, and burning PVC creates byproducts including dioxin, a
potent<br>
> carcinogen.<br>
><br>
> ========== End of copied material ===========<br>
><br>
> About 15 or 20 years ago PVC was banned in a number of European
countries,<br>
> labelling it as an "Environmental Toxin" (a bit strong
perhaps but<br>
> nevertheless...).<br>
><br>
> NASA banned its use at least that long ago claiming that the
off-gassed<br>
> vinyl chloride gummed-up their sensitive instrumentation.<br>
><br>
> I don't know how many books and films PVC has been slammed in
over the<br>
> years (including Wayne Grady's "Green Home" (1993)) and
"Blue Vinyl"<br>
> <a href="http://www.bluevinyl.org">http://www.bluevinyl.org</a>
).<br>
><br>
> So, one of course does wonder why one would make a conscious
decision to<br>
> include vast amounts of PVC into the indoor environment of an
aspiring "eco"<br>
> home ?<br>
><br>
> Aside from the "eco" aspect...<br>
><br>
> Silicone caulking sticks to just about any material. Ever notice
what<br>
> material they use to make the tube from which silicone caulking is
dispensed<br>
> ? Uh huh. And why ? Because (almost) nothing sticks to it.<br>
><br>
><br>
> --<br>
> === * ===<br>
> Rob Tom<br>
> Kanata, Ontario, Canada<br>
><br>
> < A r c h i L o g i c at Y a h o o dot c
a ><br>
> (manually winnow the chaff from my edress if you hit
"reply")<br>
><br>
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