<html><head><base href="x-msg://17499/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I've started lighting kitchens with 2 light circuits: one, with small T-4 or 5's for overall light, and another,<div>incandescent, dimmable, task directed. This gives 3 configurations before dimming; cooking, serving, eating.<br><div apple-content-edited="true">
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<br><div><div>On Mar 20, 2012, at 6:05 PM, Vadurro, Rob, EMNRD wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">You also would have the opportunity to design the best for low light and the bright light situations, instead of a compromise for each.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: ARchitxt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Rob Vadurro AIA, LEED AP</span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: ARchitxt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Park Architect</span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: ARchitxt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">New Mexico State Parks</span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: ARchitxt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">P.O. Box 1147</span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: ARchitxt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Santa Fe, NM 87505</span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: ARchitxt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">505-476-3383</span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: ARchitxt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">505-476-3361 (fax)</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding-top: 3pt; padding-right: 0in; padding-bottom: 0in; padding-left: 0in; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org">greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</a> [mailto:greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of</b>Alan Abrams<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, March 20, 2012 3:23 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Green Building<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Greenbuilding] lighting<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">the latter--based on the assumption that dimmers consume some measurable current...<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Gennaro Brooks-Church - Eco Brooklyn <<a href="mailto:info@ecobrooklyn.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">info@ecobrooklyn.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">RE: mo' fishunt, too, lumen for lumen, one would expect... <o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Which one is more efficient? The dimming setup or the separate fixture/switch setup?<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "> <br clear="all">Gennaro Brooks-Church<br>Director, Eco Brooklyn Inc.<br>Cell:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="tel:1%20347%20244%203016" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">1 347 244 3016</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>USA<br><a href="http://www.EcoBrooklyn.com" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">www.EcoBrooklyn.com</a><br>22 2nd St; Brooklyn, NY 11231<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Alan Abrams <<a href="mailto:alan@abramsdesignbuild.com" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">alan@abramsdesignbuild.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">mo' fishunt, too, lumen for lumen, one would expect...<br><br clear="all"><b><span style="color: rgb(0, 102, 0); ">Alan Abrams<br>Abrams Design Build LLC</span></b><span style="color: rgb(0, 102, 0); "><br><i>A sustainable approach to beautiful space</i><br></span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; color: rgb(0, 102, 0); "><br>6411 Orchard Avenue Suite 102<br>Takoma Park, MD 20912<br>office 301-270-NET- ZERO<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="tel:%28301-270-6380" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">(301-270-6380</a>) <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>fax <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="tel:301-270-1466" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">301-270-1466</a> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>cell <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="tel:202-437-8583" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">202-437-8583</a><br><a href="mailto:alan@abramsdesignbuild.com" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; "><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255); ">alan@abramsdesignbuild.com</span></a></span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; color: rgb(51, 51, 255); "><br></span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; color: rgb(0, 102, 0); "><a href="http://www.abramsdesignbuild.com/" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; "><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255); ">www.abramsdesignbuild.com</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Gennaro Brooks-Church - Eco Brooklyn <<a href="mailto:info@ecobrooklyn.com" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">info@ecobrooklyn.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">That is a good idea. I think that once you factor in the extra material and labor it would be the same cost though.<o:p></o:p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><br clear="all">Gennaro Brooks-Church<br>Director, Eco Brooklyn Inc.<br>Cell:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="tel:1%20347%20244%203016" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">1 347 244 3016</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>USA<br><a href="http://www.EcoBrooklyn.com" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">www.EcoBrooklyn.com</a><br>22 2nd St; Brooklyn, NY 11231<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Vadurro, Rob, EMNRD <<a href="mailto:rob.vadurro@state.nm.us" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">rob.vadurro@state.nm.us</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div></div></div><blockquote style="border-top-style: none; border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1pt; padding-top: 0in; padding-right: 0in; padding-bottom: 0in; padding-left: 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in; "><div><div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Many times the need for dimmable is really two or maybe three light levels. Perhaps you could install a low light level fixture arraignment and a bright one alongside it of LEDs or T5s on separate switches.</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: ARchitxt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Rob Vadurro AIA, LEED AP</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: ARchitxt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Park Architect</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: ARchitxt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">New Mexico State Parks</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: ARchitxt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">P.O. Box 1147</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: ARchitxt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Santa Fe, NM 87505</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: ARchitxt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><a href="tel:505-476-3383" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">505-476-3383</a></span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: ARchitxt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><a href="tel:505-476-3361" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">505-476-3361</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>(fax)</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding-top: 3pt; padding-right: 0in; padding-bottom: 0in; padding-left: 0in; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[mailto:<a href="mailto:greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Gennaro Brooks-Church - Eco Brooklyn<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, March 20, 2012 2:19 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>listserv Green Building new<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Greenbuilding] lighting</span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "> <o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Hello,<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">My company is building an interior living wall in a low light area. <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">I need to light the span - about 40 feet long - and they need to be dimmable.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">I'm having a hard time finding affordable T5 dimmable lights. They are about $135 each.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">I can't find LED that meet the criteria. <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Any suggestions?<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "> <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Gennaro Brooks-Church<br>Director, Eco Brooklyn Inc.<br>Cell:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="tel:1%20347%20244%203016" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">1 347 244 3016</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>USA<br><a href="http://www.EcoBrooklyn.com" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">www.EcoBrooklyn.com</a><br>22 2nd St; Brooklyn, NY 11231<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">_______________________________________________<br>Greenbuilding mailing list<br>to Send a Message to the list, use the email address<br><a href="mailto:Greenbuilding@bioenergylists.org" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">Greenbuilding@bioenergylists.org</a><br><br>to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page<br><a href="http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/greenbuilding_lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank" style="color: blue; 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