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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">all you need are tall enough poles and
      strong enough clips.<br>
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      energy star follows and leads. there were no "clothes dryers" in
      Energy Star because it wasn't about drying clothes but about the
      available white goods (appliances) and identifying the better
      performers. since only one white goods technology was available
      there was nothing to differentiate through Energy Star, ergo no
      Energy Star dryers. but if you are talking about drying clothes it
      is a whole different matter.<br>
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      even in high rises we could have alternatives, like those drying
      rooms mentioned elsewhere in this thread, both/and utilizing the
      superior wind resources and solar exposure, and other energy flows
      within that building system.<br>
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      cite="mid:FF.B1.02978.E232C005@hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com"
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      The tinyurl's aren't working for some reason. But the problem here
      -- and
      I would guess for many others in apartments -- is one of space
      and,
      secondarily, aesthetics. We use racks and furniture and barely
      have room
      to dry handwash. Could never fit regular wash with sheets, towels,
      etc.<br>
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      I wish we had the old solution, which was a pole placed in the
      back yard
      of the building so that all the rear facing apt's could attach
      clotheslines from their windows to the pole. And that, of course,
      wouldn't work with high rises.<br>
      <br>
      David<br>
      <br>
      At 11:17 PM 7/21/2012, Bob Waldrop wrote:<br>
      <blockquote type="cite" class="cite" cite="">Indoor drying
        products/resources
        --<br>
        <br>
        Home Despot $79 retractable clothes line,
        <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://tinyurl.com/cjkbpxa">http://tinyurl.com/cjkbpxa</a>
        <br>
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        Walmart Clothes drying racks --
        <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://tinyurl.com/bmsqb5q">http://tinyurl.com/bmsqb5q</a><br>
        <br>
        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://frugalliving.about.com/od/clothingcare/ht/How-To-Line-Dry-Clothes-Inside.htm"
          eudora="autourl">
http://frugalliving.about.com/od/clothingcare/ht/How-To-Line-Dry-Clothes-Inside.htm</a>
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        Bob Waldrop, in sunny 109 degree F Oklahoma, where clothes dry
        really
        quickly on the line<br>
        <b><br>
        </b>On 7/21/2012 9:31 PM, David Bergman wrote:<br>
        <blockquote type="cite" class="cite" cite="">Dense urban living
          has many
          environmental advantages, but solar clothes drying --
          especially in high
          rises -- is not one of them.<br>
          <br>
          David Bergman  RA   LEED AP<br>
          <font color="#808080" size="2"><b>DAVID BERGMAN</b> ARCHITECT
            / <b>FIRE
              & WATER</b> LIGHTING + FURNITURE<br>
          </font><font color="#808080">architecture . interiors .
          </font><font color="#008080">ecodesign</font><font
            color="#808080"> .
            lighting . furniture<br>
          </font><font color="#808080" size="2"><a
              moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:bergman@cyberg.com">
              bergman@cyberg.com</a>   
            <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.cyberg.com/"
              eudora="autourl"><u>www.cyberg.com</u></a><u>
            </u></font><font color="#808080"><br>
          </font><font color="#808080" size="2">241 Eldridge Street #3R,
            New York, NY
            10002<br>
          </font><font color="#808080">t </font><font color="#808080"
            size="2">212
            475 3106    f 212 677 7291</font><font color="#808080">
            <br>
            <br>
            author - Sustainable Design: A Critical Guide<br>
            blog -
            <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.ecooptimism.com/"
              eudora="autourl"><u>
                www.EcoOptimism.com</u></a> <br>
            adjunct faculty - Parsons The New School for Design</font> <br>
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          <br>
          David Bergman  RA   LEED AP<br>
          <font color="#808080" size="2"><b>DAVID BERGMAN</b> ARCHITECT
            / <b>FIRE
              & WATER</b> LIGHTING + FURNITURE<br>
          </font><font color="#808080">architecture . interiors .
          </font><font color="#008080">ecodesign</font><font
            color="#808080"> .
            lighting . furniture<br>
          </font><font color="#808080" size="2"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bergman@cyberg.com">bergman@cyberg.com</a>   
            <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.cyberg.com/"
              eudora="autourl"><u>www.cyberg.com</u></a><u>
            </u></font><font color="#808080"> <br>
          </font><font color="#808080" size="2">241 Eldridge Street #3R,
            New York, NY
            10002<br>
          </font><font color="#808080">t </font><font color="#808080"
            size="2">212
            475 3106    f 212 677 7291</font><font color="#808080">
            <br>
            <br>
            author - Sustainable Design: A Critical Guide<br>
            blog -
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                www.EcoOptimism.com</u></a> <br>
            adjunct faculty - Parsons The New School for Design</font> <br>
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