<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi, Gennaro--<div><br></div><div>The Red Queen does discuss the role women play. The book describes a hypothesis for the development of sexual reproduction in evolution. It goes on to describe plausible hypotheses, and related research projects, for human--both men and women-- cultural and social patterns and how they may connect to fundamental genetic drives. </div><div><br></div><div>I found it helpful in making sense out of a lot of confusing cultural norms.</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>Mike O'Brien</div><div><br><div apple-content-edited="true"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><br></div></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
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<br><div><div>On Aug 19, 2012, at 11:57 AM, Gennaro Brooks-Church - Eco Brooklyn wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>Hi,<br>I have not read The Red Queen. Looks informative.<br>My one issue with the theory that men killed the goddess is that if<br>everything is connected (a central theme of Goddess theory), then<br>women are just as much to blame as men for the state of religion etc.<br>Why have women not kept men in check? Are they such passive victims<br>that they can't stop such a colossal destruction of the planet? I see<br>a lot of sense in the Goddess as controlled by patriarchy argument. It<br>is the party line for many people.<br><br>But that puts the blame on men as oppressors and takes the blame away<br>from other creatures who are victims, which is too simplistic and<br>black and white IMO. There are many times more insect mass than human<br>mass. Why have insects not stopped humans from destroying the planet?<br><br>It may indeed be that male and female energy became distorted but if<br>it was due to men seeing an opportunity to control other life<br>including reproduction of women, why would they do that? I am not sure<br>men benefit on a genetic level from such actions. HUMANS, on the other<br>hand may benefit genetically from such actions, in which case maybe<br>the situation of some humans oppressing other life forms (including<br>other humans) would make sense from an evolutionary view.<br><br>I'm going to bow out now because this stuff is totally over my head<br>and I have no idea what I'm talking about.<br><br>Gennaro Brooks-Church<br>Director, Eco Brooklyn Inc.<br>Cell: 1 347 244 3016 USA<br><a href="http://www.EcoBrooklyn.com">www.EcoBrooklyn.com</a><br>22 2nd St; Brooklyn, NY 11231<br><br><br>On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Michael O'Brien <obrien@hevanet.com> wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">Hi, Gennaro--<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Thanks, your mom is a wise woman! She might enjoy reading The Red Queen,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">which goes into detail on the biological basis for men controlling women.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Best,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Mike O'Brien<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Mike O'Brien Photography<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">mikeoregon.zenfolio.com<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">On Aug 19, 2012, at 4:45 AM, Gennaro Brooks-Church - Eco Brooklyn wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">In case you were wondering what my mother thinks of Pussy Riot and the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">connection with nature, read below.....thought it was appropriate to<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">the discussion of the ultra technological (but lifeless) Passive House<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">vs. more biophillic techniques of building.....<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I find the Pussy Riot thing the most truly political act I can<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">remember; maybe the only one I remember.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">The Arab spring, the various anti war demonstrations, the Occupy<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">movement, etc etc are worthy enough, some improvement on a temporary<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">basis, but really simply removing one bunch of men to put another. or<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">to put women who have, through their climb to power, had to absorb the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">male mindset of territoriality and patriarchy. (Condalenca Rice? the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">female chief of police that ordered, and defends, the shooting, the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">murder, of striking miners in S.A.?)<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">The base problem of human civilization is the co-option of the innate<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">human connection to Nature, to the Earth and all its Life-giving<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">processes, by men, by patriarchy.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Robert Graves posits that when men made the connection between the act<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">of copulation, insemination, pregnancy and birth, was when the dynamic<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">of human society changed.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Think about it; what does a small child think when he sees a woman's<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">belly swell, when a child. astoundingly!!, comes forth.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">To make a connection between that and a seemingly incidental act of<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">physical hygiene, nine months previous....un-likely.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">And so it was with primitive man; they thought she'd sat upon a magic<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">rock, or ate a magic plant, or the stars injected her...or, or , or...<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Once men tweaked to their part in the deal, things shifted.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">This was their child, their projection, their extension.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Their tribe.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Tribalism is to be feared. It is an arbitrary division, thus<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">destruction, of Nature.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Zionism, Shism, Catholism, on and on.... and Oh!, the wars we are<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">fighting, the children who are dying, to defend these spurious<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">designated tribes.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">And so the concept of private property surged, of control the woman,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">of monogamy, of subjugation of woman.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Like livestock, the 'breeders' had to be managed, to increase the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">wealth and sanctity of the livestock owner.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">And, most pivotally, the recognition of Nature, the connection to the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Earth had to be switched to a worship of a God.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">"Omnipotent", "All-Seeing"....Big brother in a cave. Paleolithic Putin.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">And from this comes the basic mis-understanding; that the Earth is<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">here for humans to exploit.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">As men shifted to exploit their breeders, they then exploited the Earth.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">The only issue worth focusing on right now is the environmental<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">crisis; all else pales; fiddling while Rome burns.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">And this male-enforced divorce from nature is at the root of this<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Earth-wide disaster.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">All established religion is engineered (by men) to enforce this<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">exploitation;<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">The innate fear in all (un-aware) men is of women and of their power;<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Fear, terror it seems, of the power of connection to Nature's cycles<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">and its utter and total primary-ness in the Life of all Being.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">When I hear the (undoubtedly worthy) rebel fighters of the Arab Spring<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">shout Allah who Akbar (God is great) with every shot, I quake.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">When I see that the first 5 of the 10 Commandments are only about<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">establishing the power of the religious patriarchal authority, I<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">quake. (the advice against murder , surely the most basic of all human<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">laws, does not appear until # 6, amazingly enough).<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">When I see Zionists killing Arabs, based on something supposedly<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">written 5 thousand years ago, I quake.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">When I see that there is no record of any Western herbalism/medicine<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">from before the year 1600, because men destroyed all of it, fearing<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">this female healing power, I quake.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">In the beginning there was Nature.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Will there be in the end?<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I know the women of Pussy Riot would have been burned at the stake,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">until relatively recently.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">And so would have I.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">--------------<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Punk-Prayer "Virgin Mary, Put Putin Away"<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">(choir)<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Virgin Mary, Mother of God, put Putin away<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">ňut Putin away, put Putin away<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">(end chorus) ...<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Black robe, golden epaulettes<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">All parishioners crawl to bow<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">The phantom of liberty is in heaven<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Gay-pride sent to Siberia in chains<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">The head of the KGB, their chief saint,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Leads protesters to prison under escort<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">In order not to offend His Holiness<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Women must give birth and love<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Shit, shit, the Lord's shit!<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Shit, shit, the Lord's shit!<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">(Chorus)<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Virgin Mary, Mother of God, become a feminist<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Become a feminist, become a feminist<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">(end chorus)<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">The Church's praise of rotten dictators<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">The cross-bearer procession of black limousines<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">A teacher-preacher will meet you at school<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Go to class - bring him money!<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Patriarch Gundyaev believes in Putin<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Bitch, better believe in God instead<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">The belt of the Virgin can't replace mass-meetings<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Mary, Mother of God, is with us in protest!<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">(Chorus)<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Virgin Mary, Mother of God, put Putin away<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">ňut Putin away, put Putin away<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">---------------<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Gennaro Brooks-Church<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Director, Eco Brooklyn Inc.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Cell: 1 347 244 3016 USA<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">www.EcoBrooklyn.com<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">22 2nd St; 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