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<H3>Cheap energy is the enemy of achieving a sustainable energy use
pattern. Natural Gas harvested through fracking is another incremental
environmental disaster. The permanent consumption by contamination of
water injected deep in the ground withdraws permanently from the hydrological
cycle, making fresh water a non renewable resource also. </H3>
<P><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">This is a quote at bottom of the </FONT><FONT
face=Calibri><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">article about PH approach, and N Am
based approaches.</FONT></FONT></P>
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<P><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">After Klingenberg had shared her hope that the
Passivhaus approach will eventually become standard practice in North America,
Joe Lstiburek, a well-known building scientist as well as one of the conference
hosts, stood up. “I’m going to have the last word on this,” said Lstiburek. “We
have an<STRONG><FONT color=#ff0000> incredible amount of natural gas coming
online at a very low cost.</FONT></STRONG> If this proposal becomes a political
program, it might work in France, but it won’t work in the U.S. We have cheap
gas, low energy costs, and plentiful energy supplies, so this isn’t going to
fly. If you want to change the world, this can’t become a boutique program like
R2000 in Canada. The world around you is also changing — politics and the energy
situation are both changing.”</FONT></P>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=jfstraube@gmail.com
href="mailto:jfstraube@gmail.com">John Straube</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, August 06, 2012 12:30 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=greenbuilding@lists.bioenergylists.org
href="mailto:greenbuilding@lists.bioenergylists.org">Green Building</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Greenbuilding] passive house: a fresh look from
PHIUS</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">It is unfortunate your head is spinning
Alan, but I am sure many people's are.<BR>Frankly, I think there is some
confusion. PH is a specific target. BSC is not wed to one set of
targets. For mass market moving to better from bad, there is a different
set of concerns, and hence targets, than for a custom home, a home aiming for
NetZero, or something in between.<BR>That said I am quite pleased that PH has
softened its rigorous stance and is willing to work with North American
suppliers and designers to craft a more regionally optimized version of PH so
that it causes fewer design challenges (without real benefits).<BR>It would be
nice if they would stop calling it "the most rigorous energy standard in the
world" and claiming that all of the suggested targets are based on
science.<BR>John<BR><BR></FONT>
<DIV class=moz-signature>Dr John Straube, P.Eng. <BR><A
class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="http://www.BuildingScience.com">www.BuildingScience.com</A></DIV><BR>On
12-08-06 11:44 AM, Alan Abrams wrote:
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cite=mid:CADj3_s6rEV5otkO1htBpoO71Tmy_RK_=WeTf=VVBiCMHnbFkOw@mail.gmail.com
type="cite">The following article recaps a lot of dialog that has transpired
on this list, between the PH approach, and N Am based approaches best
exemplified by Building Science. the result is, PHIUS is
listening. And my head is spinning...<BR><BR><A
href="http://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/blogs/dept/musings/new-passivhaus-standard-north-america?utm_source=PHAUS+member+list+March+2012&utm_campaign=12ab9c43d2-week_4_May_2012_Newsletter5_15_2012&utm_medium=email"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/blogs/dept/musings/new-passivhaus-standard-north-america?utm_source=PHAUS+member+list+March+2012&utm_campaign=12ab9c43d2-week_4_May_2012_Newsletter5_15_2012&utm_medium=email</A><BR><BR
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