<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>I like linseed and iron oxide for the red barn look.<br><br>Gennaro Brooks-Church<div><a href="http://EcoBrooklyn.com">EcoBrooklyn.com</a></div>
<div>347-244-3016</div><div>22 2nd St., Brooklyn.</div><div>This email was sent from my phone.</div></div><div><br>On Jan 13, 2013, at 3:06 PM, Brad Guy <<a href="mailto:guy_brad@yahoo.com">guy_brad@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:garamond,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt">I have samples of Accoya and tried to use it on a deck, however it was impossible to justify the cost. It really does smell like vinegar.<br>
Aware of the thermally treated methods, which are for new woods. Was hoping for something we could apply to salvaged wood, whether soaked or sprayed. <br>We could not duplicate a kiln, and although possible to send this wood to one of those treaters, I imagine they want a large quantity and probably charge large sum, not to mention shipping it there and back.<br>
As I understand it boric acid is great except for the solubility, and it is then the fixing of it that poses the problem..<br>The old time method of linseed oil and turpentine seems to come up, neither are exactly benign.<br>
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<div style="font-family:garamond,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"> <div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> christian corson <<a href="mailto:chris@ecocor.us">chris@ecocor.us</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Green Building <<a href="mailto:greenbuilding@lists.bioenergylists.org">greenbuilding@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>> <br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, January 10, 2013 5:52 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re:
[Greenbuilding] wood vinegar as non-toxic wood treatment<br> </font> </div> <br>
<div id="yiv295790042">Haven't had a client that wants to afford it yet. There are other products on the residential market that are just as responsible but less coin. Like Cambia.<div>As nice as Accoya is, it is a boutique veneer reserved unfortunately for budgets like the Bullet Center ( not that it was used there) Its hard to convince people to spend the money on plyboo and the like.</div>
<div>Spend the money on the shell, windows, and ventilation then tack on $30,000.00 siding packages.</div><div>Sure is purdy tough.</div><div>c</div><div><br><div><br clear="all"><div><font color="#ff6600"><i>Christian Corson</i><br>
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<br><br><div class="yiv295790042gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Philip Proefrock <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:architect@cornellbox.com">architect@cornellbox.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="yiv295790042gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Are you thinking about things like Accoya treated wood? They use a<br>
process called acetylization, which uses acetic acid in a pressure<br>
treatment application to produce weather-resistant wood; it's not just a<br>
brush-on process.<br>
<br>
Here's an article with some additional information (and a few images,<br>
including a wooden road bridge made with this wood):<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.jetsongreen.com/2011/05/accoya-durable-nontoxic-exterior-wood.html">http://www.jetsongreen.com/2011/05/accoya-durable-nontoxic-exterior-wood.html</a><br>
<br>
>From what I understand of the process, it needs heat and pressure to<br>
work; it's not just the presence of vinegar that provides the<br>
protection. But this is a pretty water-resistant material once it's<br>
been treated. It is used for a variety of exposed purposes.<br>
<br>
Philip Proefrock, AIA<br>
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<br>
> Has anyone on this list ever used wood vinegar or any other kind of<br>
> vinegar as a wood preservative/treatment ?<br>
> If so, can you indicate the results and where you got it in the USA ?<br>
><br>
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