<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi, John--<div><br></div><div>Thanks for the link to the Energiewende report, it's very interesting.</div><div><br></div><div>I hope somebody in Germany is actually talking to their neighbors about the idea of swapping electricity across borders as a means of "storage" (p. 14 f), as I read there have been complaints from some countries that Germany currently (no pun intended) strongarms them into taking excess power.</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>Mike O'Brien<br><div><br></div><div>Mike O'Brien Photography</div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><a href="http://mikeoregon.zenfolio.com">mikeoregon.zenfolio.com</a></div><div><br></div></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
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<br><div><div>On Feb 24, 2013, at 10:59 AM, john daglish wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>12 Insights on Germany’s Energiewende<br>A briefing paper from the NGO agora-energiewende on the tasks for the<br>energiewende - German energy revolution, renewable energy wind +<br>solar + peak chp et heat stores, variable elec/heat gas/biogas, And a<br>good discussion on the need for restructuring the electricity market<br>to finance ongoing renewables and supporting flexible plant.<br><a href="http://www.agora-energiewende.de/fileadmin/downloads/publikationen/Agora_12_Insights_on_Germanys_Energiewende_web.pdf">http://www.agora-energiewende.de/fileadmin/downloads/publikationen/Agora_12_Insights_on_Germanys_Energiewende_web.pdf</a><br><br><br>John Daglish<br>Paris, France<br><br><br>On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 4:30 AM, Corwyn <corwyn@midcoast.com> wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">On 2/23/2013 6:28 PM, John Straube wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I too would keep an open mind on this.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">They make it sound like this is a problem only with renewable energy, when,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">in fact, it is a concern with all types of power generation. The down time<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">for solar generators is at most a few day, and usually just a few hours. A<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">nuclear plant is generally down for months to refuel. And storage<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">requirements go up based on time required. Pump storage is reasonable<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">proposition, I think. The bugaboos are where you get the water and where<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">you put it. A mine and a slag mountain, and captured water, sound like<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">reasonable choices to me, but I don't know any details.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Thank You Kindly,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Corwyn<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">--<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Topher Belknap<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Green Fret Consulting<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Kermit didn't know the half of it...<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">http://www.greenfret.com/<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">topher@greenfret.com<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">(207) 882-7652<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">_______________________________________________<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Greenbuilding mailing list<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">to Send a Message to the list, use the email address<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Greenbuilding@bioenergylists.org<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/greenbuilding_lists.bioenergylists.org<br></blockquote><br>_______________________________________________<br>Greenbuilding mailing list<br>to Send a Message to the list, use the email address<br>Greenbuilding@bioenergylists.org<br><br>to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page<br>http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/greenbuilding_lists.bioenergylists.org<br><br><br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>