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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-CA link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I would be tempted to model a hybrid to see which combinations would work best for the space. You need an air system in any event so something that has the potential of conditioning that air makes sense. Radiant can require less power and is easily integrated into the materials and structure of an earthship. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I work in a rural context and am not a huge fan of geothermal installations as they have become somewhat fashionable and often are done poorly or invasively at considerable expense. It depends on what other aspects of the land are being developed (roadways, wells, etc.). Considering the earthwork required for an earthship integrating geothermal is definitely something to consider. Rurally its about how heavy the footprint is (always keep Thoreau handy as a harpy on your shoulder).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Greenbuilding [mailto:greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gennaro Brooks-Church - Eco Brooklyn<br><b>Sent:</b> July-25-13 10:07 AM<br><b>To:</b> Green Building<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Greenbuilding] Heat pump vs radiant<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>This is a typical tire packed earthship. I am looking to implement Passive House methods and see where we end up. I'd like to use as much salvaged materials as well of course. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>I guess my question is not so related to an Earthship though. It is more one of using solar thermal radiant or Minisplit PV. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Matt you raise an excellent point about humidity. For that reason alone it may be worth going with Minisplits.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The larger question is what is a better use of money for an East Coast building with land, solar thermal, PV or geothermal....?<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Gennaro Brooks-Church<br>Director, Eco Brooklyn Inc.<br>Cell: 1 347 244 3016 USA<br><a href="http://www.EcoBrooklyn.com" target="_blank">www.EcoBrooklyn.com</a><br>22 2nd St; Brooklyn, NY 11231<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Alan Abrams <<a href="mailto:alan@abramsdesignbuild.com" target="_blank">alan@abramsdesignbuild.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>GBC--are you talking about a Taos style, a la Michael Reynolds, adobe packed tire structure Earthship? or is there some east coast variant...or is this your own concoction?<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>AA<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Gennaro Brooks-Church - Eco Brooklyn <<a href="mailto:info@ecobrooklyn.com" target="_blank">info@ecobrooklyn.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hello,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>I am building an Earthship for a client in NY and he wants it bigger than is ideal for an earthship, thus it will need supplemental heating and cooling.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>My question is whether I should heat the space with radiant heating or with a minisplit. Either system will be fueled by panels (thermal and PV).<br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Gennaro Brooks-Church<br>Director, Eco Brooklyn Inc.<br>Cell: <a href="tel:1%20347%20244%203016" target="_blank">1 347 244 3016</a> USA<br><a href="http://www.EcoBrooklyn.com" target="_blank">www.EcoBrooklyn.com</a><br>22 2nd St; Brooklyn, NY 11231<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>Greenbuilding mailing list<br>to Send a Message to the list, use the email address<br><a href="mailto:Greenbuilding@bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">Greenbuilding@bioenergylists.org</a><br><br>to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page<br><a href="http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/greenbuilding_lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/greenbuilding_lists.bioenergylists.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#888888'><br><br clear=all><span class=hoenzb><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=hoenzb><span style='color:#888888'>-- </span></span><span style='color:#888888'><br></span><span class=hoenzb><span style='color:#660000'>Alan Abrams</span></span><b><span style='color:#660000'><br></span></b><span class=hoenzb><i><span style='color:#666666'>certified professional building designer, AIBD</span></i></span><i><span style='color:#666666'><br><span class=hoenzb>certified passive house consultant, PHIUS</span></span></i><span class=hoenzb><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='color:#666666'>certified passive house builder, PHIUS<br></span></i><span style='color:#660000'>Abrams Design Build LLC</span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;color:#660000'><br><i>sustainable design for intentional living</i></span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;color:#666666'><br>cell <a href="tel:202-437-8583" target="_blank">202-437-8583</a><br><a href="mailto:alan@abramsdesignbuild.com" target="_blank"><span style='color:#666666'>alan@abramsdesignbuild.com</span></a><br><a href="http://www.abramsdesignbuild.com/" target="_blank"><span style='color:#666666'>www.abramsdesignbuild.com</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br>_______________________________________________<br>Greenbuilding mailing list<br>to Send a Message to the list, use the email address<br><a href="mailto:Greenbuilding@bioenergylists.org">Greenbuilding@bioenergylists.org</a><br><br>to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page<br><a href="http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/greenbuilding_lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/greenbuilding_lists.bioenergylists.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>