<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div>Ruben,<br><br>For the record: Microsoft is going to stop support on XP and Office 2003 in April 2014. This does not mean you can't use it, but MS will no longer care if there are secuirty issues in there. Keeping in mind that Windows get new malware everyday, this is effectively going to make XP obselete.<br><br>We should not look at the world in terms of how we behave, but how the majority behaves. Just because you work around Planned Obselence, doesn't mean the majority do. <br><br>The reasons for discarding equipment prematurely is complex, much is done by organizations rather than individuals. Millions of useable PCs are already in landfills, further millions were eCycled in China in ways that caused cancer in young children. <br><br>The reason you should switch to Free and Open Source Software (FOSS) is not simply for your own
particular needs. By using and promoting FOSS you will help achive the critical mass needed to break the current paradigm.</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">~sanjay<br><br><br><br></div> <div><span><br></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Reuben Deumling <9watts@gmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> sanjay jain <sanjayjainuk@yahoo.co.uk>; Green Building
<greenbuilding@lists.bioenergylists.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:06 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Greenbuilding] Get a puppy and help save the environment!<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br>
<meta http-equiv="x-dns-prefetch-control" content="off"><div id="yiv1618565043"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="yiv1618565043gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="yiv1618565043gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 6:54 AM, sanjay jain <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:sanjayjainuk@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank" href="mailto:sanjayjainuk@yahoo.co.uk">sanjayjainuk@yahoo.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="yiv1618565043gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><div><div class="yiv1618565043im"><br></div>Yes, you are missing a big part of the picture. Most computers are replaced not due to any faulty part, but software issues (Alan's complaint about incompatibility is essentially a software issue). </div>
</div></div></blockquote><div> </div><blockquote class="yiv1618565043gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><br>A lot of people on Craigslist/ebay are selling "refurbished" computers - that simply meant the OS was reinstalled.</div>
</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Right. So are you saying that the folks above who replace their computers because of software issues <u>have not had success reinstalling the OS</u>? I'm *not* savvy with computers, but feel like perhaps we're talking about two different approaches, different sets of priorities, here. <br>
I'm running Office 2003 and Windows XP (Version 2002) on an IBM Thinkpad I bought used 6.5 years ago. It is my sole computer and I used it 3-8 hrs/day. Are you saying I can't expect to use this going forward because of X? <br>
</div><blockquote class="yiv1618565043gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><br><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"> <br>Two words to get Alan
ranting again: Planned Obselence<span class="yiv1618565043HOEnZb"></span></div></div></blockquote><div> <br></div><div>I am familiar with that, yes. But it isn't in my experience an iron rule, just an unfortunate principle with plenty of work arounds, though perhaps fewer with computers than with mechanical objects.<br>
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