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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-CA link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It is pretty confusing – the text of the bill </span><a href="http://www.kslegislature.org/li/b2013_14/measures/documents/hb2366_00_0000.pdf">http://www.kslegislature.org/li/b2013_14/measures/documents/hb2366_00_0000.pdf</a> <span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>is fairly strong in eliminating the use of any public funds for anything that can be identified as ‘sustainable development’ as opposed to ‘conservation’ or ‘conservationism’. A term that it links somewhat erroneously to libertarian concepts. Perhaps because it sounds like ‘conservative’<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> Ironically capitalism or private development and individual freedoms can proceed quite nicely under the hubris of all the varying definitions of sustainable development (emphasis on development) but less so under the concept of conservation which carries more specific meaning for preservation, protection and restoration including the concept of harm and prevention (which imply responsibilities not necessarily linked to individual freedoms!). These definitions do tend to mean something when it comes down to a court of law.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Also it was mentioned that the sponsor of the bill has a conflict of interest as he works for the oil industry. Ironically here (Canada) the oil industry has been benefiting from government funding of environmental impact studies for furthering pipeline developments (arguably something the industry should be paying for). This use of public money to further private development is sanctioned under the definition of ‘sustainable development’ which allows for development – under the term ‘conservationism’ such funding would be less defendable as it should ideally be directed not to the further development of a resource or access to it but to its limitation.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It is all semantics and politics but on the face of it (and tongue in cheek) I find myself supporting the bill. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Greenbuilding [mailto:greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gennaro Brooks-Church - Eco Brooklyn<br><b>Sent:</b> September-20-13 6:21 AM<br><b>To:</b> Green Building<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Greenbuilding] Kansas' bill to outlaw sustainability<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#444444'>I've a feeling we're not in Kansas any more.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Gennaro Brooks-Church<br>Director, Eco Brooklyn Inc.<br>Cell: 1 347 244 3016 USA<br><a href="http://www.EcoBrooklyn.com" target="_blank">www.EcoBrooklyn.com</a><br>22 2nd St; Brooklyn, NY 11231<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Alan Abrams <<a href="mailto:alan@abramsdesignbuild.com" target="_blank">alan@abramsdesignbuild.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>in contrast, it's comforting to consider that Greensburg, the Kansas town that was wiped off the face of the earth in 2007 by a #5 tornado, was rebuilt as an emphatically sustainable community. their municipal website boasts "The most LEED certified buildings per capita in the world." It seems not all Kansans are reactionary.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>AA<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 9:22 PM, John Salmen <<a href="mailto:terrain@shaw.ca" target="_blank">terrain@shaw.ca</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Wow is right - there was also a bill that both sides of the global warming<br>debate had to be taught in schools. Since there is virtually no science left<br>on the 'doesn't exist' side perhaps that could be taught in creative<br>writing.<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Greenbuilding [mailto:<a href="mailto:greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>]<br>On Behalf Of Chris Koehn<br>Sent: September-19-13 3:19 PM<br>To: <a href="mailto:greenbuilding@lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">greenbuilding@lists.bioenergylists.org</a><br><a href="mailto:greenbuilding@lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">greenbuilding@lists.bioenergylists.org</a><br>Subject: [Greenbuilding] Kansas' bill to outlaw sustainability<br><br>Wow<br><br><<a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-09/kansas-s-self-destruct-button-a-bi" target="_blank">http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-09/kansas-s-self-destruct-button-a-bi</a><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>ll-to-outlaw-sustainability.html><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Greenbuilding mailing list<br>to Send a Message to the list, use the email address<br><a href="mailto:Greenbuilding@bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">Greenbuilding@bioenergylists.org</a><br><br>to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page<br><a href="http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/greenbuilding_lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/greenbuilding_lists.bioener<br>gylists.org</a><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Greenbuilding mailing list<br>to Send a Message to the list, use the email address<br><a href="mailto:Greenbuilding@bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">Greenbuilding@bioenergylists.org</a><br><br>to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page<br><a href="http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/greenbuilding_lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/greenbuilding_lists.bioenergylists.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=hoenzb><span style='color:#888888'>-- </span></span><span style='color:#888888'><br></span><span class=hoenzb><span style='color:#660000'>Alan Abrams</span></span><b><span style='color:#660000'><br></span></b><span class=hoenzb><i><span style='color:#666666'>certified professional building designer, AIBD</span></i></span><i><span style='color:#666666'><br><span class=hoenzb>certified passive house consultant, PHIUS</span></span></i><span class=hoenzb><span style='color:#888888'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='color:#666666'>certified passive house builder, PHIUS<br></span></i><span style='color:#660000'>Abrams Design Build LLC</span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;color:#660000'><br><i>sustainable design for intentional living</i></span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;color:#666666'><br>cell <a href="tel:202-437-8583" target="_blank">202-437-8583</a><br><a href="mailto:alan@abramsdesignbuild.com" target="_blank"><span style='color:#666666'>alan@abramsdesignbuild.com</span></a><br><a href="http://www.abramsdesignbuild.com/" target="_blank"><span style='color:#666666'>www.abramsdesignbuild.com</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br>_______________________________________________<br>Greenbuilding mailing list<br>to Send a Message to the list, use the email address<br><a href="mailto:Greenbuilding@bioenergylists.org">Greenbuilding@bioenergylists.org</a><br><br>to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page<br><a href="http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/greenbuilding_lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/greenbuilding_lists.bioenergylists.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>