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I’ve heard of them but don’t know a whole lot of details. I’m fairly certain they’re a REC company—meaning they by wind “renewable energy credits” to pay to put wind on a grid. You have to ask them where the wind farms are. If the rates are lower than SOS (standard offer service), chances are the wind farms are in Texas or the Dakotas, so those electrons are serving those markets. It’s a GHG benefit (and regional air quality), but won’t improve the NY grid electric mix (won’t offset the need for coal, oil, gas, nuclear on NY’s grid). I don’t believe NY has joined the PJM grid, so you can find out who your grid manager is and what the SOS grid supply mix is. If the offering is for “local wind”, then those wind-based electrons are supplying the local grid and have a benefit for regional envtl quality as well as GHG.<BR>
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On 10/12/13 3:11 PM, "David Bergman" <<a href="bergman@cyberg.com">bergman@cyberg.com</a>> wrote:<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:11pt'>Is anyone familiar with the ESCO Ethical Electric, <a href="https://ethicalelectric.com">https://ethicalelectric.com</a> <<a href="https://ethicalelectric.com/">https://ethicalelectric.com/</a>> ? I got an email blast from them recently. I called them and it sounds like their rate per kWh is actually lower than my current rate from Con Ed Solutions, which is a partially eco ESCO (it includes hydro).<BR>
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Ethical says they are solely wind sourced. Sounds great, but I'd never heard of them until receiving the blast.<BR>
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<FONT COLOR="#808080">David Bergman RA LEED AP<BR>
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