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Thanks Jason. Their info says that, for NY customers, it's 100% wind,
sourced within 200 miles of "where you live."<br>
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At 10:12 PM 10/13/2013, you wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""><font face="Calibri">I’ve heard
of them but don’t know a whole lot of details. I’m fairly certain they’re
a REC companymeaning they by wind “renewable energy credits” to pay to
put wind on a grid. You have to ask them where the wind farms are.
If the rates are lower than SOS (standard offer service), chances are the
wind farms are in Texas or the Dakotas, so those electrons are serving
those markets. It’s a GHG benefit (and regional air quality), but
won’t improve the NY grid electric mix (won’t offset the need for coal,
oil, gas, nuclear on NY’s grid). I don’t believe NY has joined the
PJM grid, so you can find out who your grid manager is and what the SOS
grid supply mix is. If the offering is for “local wind”, then those
wind-based electrons are supplying the local grid and have a benefit for
regional envtl quality as well as GHG.<br><br>
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On 10/12/13 3:11 PM, "David Bergman"
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<dd>Is anyone familiar with the ESCO Ethical Electric,
<a href="https://ethicalelectric.com">https://ethicalelectric.com</a>
<<a href="https://ethicalelectric.com/" eudora="autourl">
https://ethicalelectric.com/</a>> ? I got an email blast from them
recently. I called them and it sounds like their rate per kWh is actually
lower than my current rate from Con Ed Solutions, which is a partially
eco ESCO (it includes hydro).<br><br>
<dd>Ethical says they are solely wind sourced. Sounds great, but I'd
never heard of them until receiving the blast.<br><br>
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