<div dir="ltr">Hi,<div>Thanks for the comments. The client doesn't want any insulation. He is an artist and thinks he will be ok with a raw temp studio. I pointed out that a container in the summer is like a Japanese torture chamber and in the winter like a Russian gulag. </div>
<div>As a concession we are insulating around the base to keep the cold air out from under the floors. The interior walls will get 3" inches PolyISO. on top of the container the roof will get 3" XEPS and an extensive green roof. The ceiling nothing for now. The weakest point is the corner where the walls meet the ceiling since there is a direct thermal bridge. If the insulation was on the inside ceiling meeting the insulated walls I could break that bridge but the containers are low at 8' when raw space.</div>
<div>Anyway, if his claims of being ok with the temps is true, then we only need a little boost to cut the extremes. I'm getting one suggestion for radiant heat. I'm thinking of suggesting a pellet stove....</div>
<div>Your thoughts?</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div>Gennaro Brooks-Church<br>Director, Eco Brooklyn Inc.<br>Cell: 1 347 244 3016 USA<br><a href="http://www.EcoBrooklyn.com" target="_blank">www.EcoBrooklyn.com</a><br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Norbert Senf <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mheat@mha-net.org" target="_blank">mheat@mha-net.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Electric radiant heaters, or radiant panels. Instant heat.<br>
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I have one in my office and one in my uninsulated garage. Instant-on zoned radiant heat is the only way to go in an uninsulated space that is not living space. Get real radiant heaters that beam the heat, which means either a glowing element with a reflector, or a panel with a significant surface area. Forget anything with a fan, oil filled, or that makes efficiency claims - they all work off electric resistance, at 100% conversion efficiency because the losses happen upstream. (Like Amory Lovins famously said, "heating with electricity is like cutting butter with a chainsaw").<br>
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It is a matter of minimizing convection heating, that will simply go up and out unless you heat individual small rooms with closed doors and without high ceilings.<br>
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At 06:18 PM 10/16/2013 -0400, Gennaro Brooks-Church - Eco Brooklyn wrote:<br>
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I have a Brooklyn client for whom we are assembling a bunch of shipping containers to make an art studio. Three containers on the bottom level and two on the top level with a central flight of stairs connecting the levels.<br>
It is minimally insulated, mostly because he is ok with some extreme temps in the studio and also he doesn't see the (R!) value in spending lots of money on insulation....I've at least got him to spending some....<br>
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What non-gas heating would you suggest to keep the deep winter at bay?<br>
There is electric. There is a firewood supplier accross the way but that is neither here nor there in the big picture.<br>
For AC I am suggesting a couple window units given his budget and plans to only stay there 5 years, max ten.<br>
Gennaro Brooks-Church<br>
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