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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-CA link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>I can’t see using anything other than safety glass overhead (laminated tempered glass with a safety film in the middle similar to vehicle windshields). Surface films will delaminate, become brittle over time – scary stuff.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Greenbuilding [mailto:greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gennaro Brooks-Church - Eco Brooklyn<br><b>Sent:</b> April-27-14 3:27 PM<br><b>To:</b> Green Building<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Greenbuilding] glass panels as porch roof?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Yes. YouTube it. <br><br>On Sunday, April 27, 2014, Reuben Deumling <<a href="mailto:9watts@gmail.com">9watts@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Are you saying that the film works in that manner when stuck to <i>untempered</i> glass as well?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Gennaro Brooks-Church - Eco Brooklyn <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','info@ecobrooklyn.com');" target="_blank">info@ecobrooklyn.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>A little unconventional but I've used the film that's used on storefront windows to protect against arson, bombs etc. With the adhesive that you can also attached the pane to its frame the thing becomes, well, bombproof. It will shatter but stay in place. You have to hack it with a bat fifty times to get through. <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br>On Sunday, April 27, 2014, Michael O'Brien <<a href="mailto:obrien@hevanet.com">obrien@hevanet.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi, Reuben--<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Using non-tempered glass overhead is not permitted by code in Oregon.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Even tempered glass I think is iffy. It can break, for example if it were stressed along an edge by a stray screw, and if it breaks the falling chunks don't become popcorn size until they hit the floor.<br><br>Best, Mike<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Apr 27, 2014, at 2:38 PM, Reuben Deumling <<a href="mailto:9watts@gmail.com">9watts@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>That is very helpful, Clarke. Thank you.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Is using non-tempered glass for this kind of application to be avoided as a rule?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Clarke Olsen <<a href="mailto:colsen@fairpoint.net">colsen@fairpoint.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>True, tempered glass can't be cut, but there are at least 4 standard sizes: 28" x 76, 34" x 76, 46" x 76, 33" x 75, <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>and maybe 45" x 75".<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:13.5pt'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Clarke Olsen<br><a href="http://clarkeolsendesign.com" target="_blank">clarkeolsendesign.com</a><br>373 route 203<br>Spencertown, NY 12165 <br>USA<br>518-392-4640<br><a href="mailto:colsen@taconic.net">colsen@taconic.net</a><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Apr 27, 2014, at 2:45 PM, Reuben Deumling <9watts@<a href="http://gmail.com" target="_blank">gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>So I'm finally getting around to putting this roof together. I appreciate the glass patio door reuse idea, and am proceeding full steam. Got four doors already. <br>....<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Except I just found out via that crazy thing we call the internet that these tempered panels can't be cut! Three of the doors will work out<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>Greenbuilding mailing list<br>to Send a Message to the list, use the email address<br><a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Greenbuilding@bioenergylists.org');" target="_blank">Greenbuilding@bioenergylists.org</a><br><br>to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page<br><a href="http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/greenbuilding_lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/greenbuilding_lists.bioenergylists.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br>-- <br>Gennaro Brooks-Church<br>Director, Eco Brooklyn Inc.<br>Cell: 1 347 244 3016 USA<br><a href="http://www.EcoBrooklyn.com" target="_blank">www.EcoBrooklyn.com</a><br>22 2nd St; Brooklyn, NY 11231<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>