<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div style="" class=""><span style="" class="">I recommend this documentary: <a style="" class="" href="http://pandoraspromise.com/">http://pandoraspromise.com/</a></span></div><div style="" class=""><br style="" class=""><span style="" class=""></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;" class=""><span style="" class="">It's made by ex-nuclear-power activists. The documentary claims there are people living without problems around Chernobyl, and that while nuclear plant accidents are bad, they don't actually have the long term effects that everyone claims.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family:
HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;" class=""><br style="" class=""><span style="" class=""></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;" class=""><span style="" class="">It claims that newer designs are much safer and that we need to look to nuclear power to avoid catastrophic</span> climate change.</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;" class=""><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;" class="">It also claims that
Solar has killed more people than nuclear.<br></div><span style="" class=""></span><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;" class=""><span style="" class=""><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;" class=""><span style="" class="">~sanjay<br style="" class=""></span></div><div style="" class=""><br style="" class=""></div> <div class="" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div class="" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="" class="" dir="ltr"> <hr style="" class="" size="1"> <font
style="" class="" size="2" face="Arial"> <b style="" class=""><span class="" style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Reuben Deumling <9watts@gmail.com><br style="" class=""> <b style="" class=""><span class="" style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Green Building <greenbuilding@lists.bioenergylists.org> <br style="" class=""> <b style="" class=""><span class="" style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, June 9, 2014 5:25 PM<br style="" class=""> <b style="" class=""><span class="" style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Greenbuilding] between a rock and a shoulder season<br style="" class=""> </font> </div> <div style="" class=""><br style="" class=""><div style="" class="" id="yiv4786232135"><div style="" class=""><div style="" class="" dir="ltr"><br style="" class="" clear="none"><div style="" class=""><br style="" class="" clear="none"><br style="" class="" clear="none"><div style="" class=""
id="yiv4786232135yqtfd06622"><div style="" class="">On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 11:33 AM, LarenCorie <span style="" class="" dir="ltr"><<a style="" class="" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:larencorie@axilar.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:larencorie@axilar.net">larencorie@axilar.net</a>></span> wrote:<br style="" class="" clear="none">
<blockquote class="" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;">From: Reuben Deumling <<a style="" class="" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:9watts@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:9watts@gmail.com">9watts@gmail.com</a>><br style="" class="" clear="none">
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To us *electricity *to heat anything, to me, is bordering<br style="" class="" clear="none">
on the sacrilegious.<br style="" class="" clear="none">
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Hi Reuben;<br style="" class="" clear="none">
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I strongly disagree with you. The electric grid is the only utility<br style="" class="" clear="none">
that is delivering clean energy from 100% green sources. </blockquote><div style="" class=""><br style="" class="" clear="none"></div><div style="" class="">We've disagreed about this before, Laren. I appreciate the sun and the wind as much as the next person, but <br style="" class="" clear="none"></div><div style="" class="">(a) the infrastructure to capture and distribute them at grid scale is 100% not renewable (everything about wind and solar at grid scale is reliant on fossil fuels: mining, transportation and manufacturing of the turbines & panels and wires and towers), and<br style="" class="" clear="none">
</div><div style="" class="">(b) because of this I'd rather wince at that dependance and use the wind and solar distributed at grid scale for things that rubbing two sticks together won't accomplish, like powering a computer or a refrigerator. <br style="" class="" clear="none">
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