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<body>On Fri, 03 Jul 2015 13:32:25 -0400, Norbert Senf <norbert.senf@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br><br><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0.80ex; border-left: #0000FF 2px solid; padding-left: 1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div>There is a workshop next week near Kingston (ON), with some international cookstove experts:<br><a href="http://mha-net.org/docs/15052201.pdf">http://mha-net.org/docs/15052201.pdf</a><br><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
</blockquote><br><div>I was just heading out the door when Norbert's post came in and in looking at the PDF mentioned above, the author of the announcement contained therein mentioned that the site of the workshop (Odessa ON) was near Napanee ON and "that's where Avril Lavigne is from, don't you know".</div><div><br></div><div>Me ? I'm from an older generation than that which would have mentioned a skateboarder/pop music personality as a community's claim to fame.</div><div><br></div><div>Point Anne is also just up the road from Odessa and it is the village where Bobby Hull (aka "The Golden Jet") of 1960's NHL hockey fame is from.</div><div><br></div><div>In fact, I would venture that Point Anne would be an ideal spot for a gathering of Green masonry stovebuilders.</div><div><br></div><div>It is the site of the ruins of an old cement plant complex. (Visible in GoogleMaps "satellite" view around co-ordinates 44.155387, -77.304755 )</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>From the water, in the Bay of Qunite, one catches glimpses through the trees on shore of what looks like a gable end left standing after a bomb attack, like some WWII village in Europe.</div><div><br></div><div>Approaching the site from land, one first comes across small mountains of huge limestone blocks haphazardly stacked, as if a Brobdignagian giant had rampaged through the site of Stonehenge in a drunken rage. 44.157161, -77310197 <br></div><div><br></div><div> In the late 1950s was a great place for little boys (like myself) to play. </div><div>In the 2010's , I suspect that it'd be a great place for a gang of grown-up stone masons to play.</div><div><br></div><div> *</div><div><br></div><div>
On Fri, 03 Jul 2015 10:14:43 -0400, conservation architect <elitalking@rockbridge.net> wrote:
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<div><font size="3">For the past 3 years, I have been reducing the humidity in my
house in the summer by temporarily heating to 100F+ temperature for a few
hours. ... my wife did not want me to do this </font></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0.80ex; border-left: #0000FF 2px solid; padding-left: 1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial'; COLOR: #000000"><div style="FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline"><div dir="ltr"><div style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial'; COLOR: #000000"><div><font size="3">The second year, I pointed to the mold forming to convince here it was a
problem, also in August. Similar results to first year. This year, I
convinced my wife to proactively dehumidify by drying the house when I first saw
it get to 80%RH temporarily. I did this last week to get down to
64%RH. </font></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0.80ex; border-left: #0000FF 2px solid; padding-left: 1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial'; COLOR: #000000"><div style="FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline"><div dir="ltr"><div style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial'; COLOR: #000000"><div><font size="3">Also, on select days where RH is in 50s%, I ventilate the house
with fans. I was able to reduce by 5% the last time this way. </font></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><big>I'm with t'missus on this one.</big></div><div><big><br></big></div><div><big>I think that the strategy of actively heating up a house to 100+ degF in summer as a means of cooking off moisture from envelope materials that were used to passively dehumidify a space seems ... [insert your choice of descriptors that you imagine Eli's wife would have used in discussions on the matter].</big></div><div><big><br></big></div><div><big>I think that the strategy is akin to holding one's breath and staying underwater in a swimming pool as a "passive cooling" strategy, emerging from underwater only when on the verge of passing out due to lack of oxygen, to gasp for air briefly before going under again. As a means of keeping cool, it would work but there are collateral deleterious consequences .</big></div><div><big><br></big></div><div><big>In both cases, (dehumidification and cooling) proper ventilation would be beneficial.</big></div><div><big><br></big></div><div><big>Again, rather than placing bio-char in a crawl-space to function as a desiccant, plain old clay, as an earthen plaster on walls, say 2 to 3 inches thick (or even as sun-dried blocks stacked up to serve as partitions replacing stud-framed partitions throughout the actual living space would likely perform as well or better than an equal mass of bio-char with far lower embodied-energy consequences. </big></div><div><big><br></big></div><div><big>And rather than heating up the entire house to 100+ degF to dry out the desiccant materials when mould activity becomes imminent, perhaps the clay could be configured as something like a Trombe wall in each room, and venting the moisture-laden super-heated air outdoors (if possible) rather than the winter mode of directing it to the adjacent living spaces. </big></div><div><big> <br></big></div><div><big> *<br></big></div><div><big><br></big></div><div>
Lynelle Hamilton <lynelle@lahamilton.com> wrote:<br><br><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0.80ex; border-left: #0000FF 2px solid; padding-left: 1ex">
<font face="Corbel">... 67
Electra 225. Mine with the 430-4bbl
(inherited from my parents in 73) routinely held 9 people(!). On a
mpg per person, it probably was a lot friendlier than many vehicles</font></blockquote><big><br></big></div></div><div><br></div><div>When I was in high school in the late 1960s, a relative tried to unload a 1960 Buick Electra 225 "Microsoft Excel Green" convertible (think Big Fins" fore and aft) onto me when I first got my driver's license. I didn't bite. But pretty much all of the vehicles that we drove back then regularly accommodated surprisingly large numbers of bodies ... frequently even when the vehicle wasn't moving come to think of it. </div><div><br></div><div> </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div id="M2Signature"><div>-- </div><div>=== * ===<br>Rob Tom DT7-64 <br>Kanata, Ontario, Canada</div></div></body></html>