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<br><div><div>On Mar 28, 2016, at 4:27 PM, Vadurro, Rob, EMNRD <<a href="mailto:rob.vadurro@state.nm.us">rob.vadurro@state.nm.us</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Way back in architecture school, we were told that the windows were where the heat loss (gain) was most pronounced, so to provide the most even heating (cooling) the heat (cool) delivery was to be placed there. I think reality is more complex; heat (cool) distribution being the real concern, I think it comes down to how well the heat (cool) gets around the space. Perhaps a ceiling fan, or a Big A$$ fan could take care of that better than the registers at the windows.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Rob Vadurro, AIA<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Park Architect<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">New Mexico State Parks<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">1220 South Saint Francis Drive<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Santa Fe, NM 87505<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">505-476-3383<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">505-476-3361 fax</span><span style="font-family: 'Baskerville Old Face', serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Greenbuilding [<a href="mailto:greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org">mailto:greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Alan Abrams<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, March 28, 2016 2:14 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Green Building <<a href="mailto:greenbuilding@lists.bioenergylists.org">greenbuilding@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Greenbuilding] Greenbuilding Digest, Vol 67, Issue 10<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">Reuben-<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">can you take advantage of the coanda effect, in which a stream of air enjoys scurrying along a flat surface? If so, yes, shorten duct runs accordingly. And maybe reduce fan size, too, if you're reduced enough static pressure.<br><br><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coand%C4%83_effect" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coand%C4%83_effect</a><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">-aa<o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><br clear="all"><o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(102, 0, 0);">Alan Abrams<b><br></b></span><i><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">certified professional building designer, AIBD<br>certified passive house consultant, PHIUS</span></i><o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><i><span style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">certified passive house builder, PHIUS</span></i><i><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);"><br></span></i><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">cell 202-437-8583<br><a href="mailto:alan@abramsdesignbuild.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">alan@abramsdesignbuild.com</span></a><br></span><a href="http://www.heliconworks.com/index2.html" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">HELICON WORKS<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i>Architecture and Education</i></a><o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 4:00 PM, barbara deane-gillett <<a href="mailto:deaneg@hotmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">deaneg@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">go for it and harvest the ductwork savings<br><br>Sent from my iPhone<br><br>On Mar 28, 2016, at 2:01 PM,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:greenbuilding-request@lists.bioenergylists.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">greenbuilding-request@lists.bioenergylists.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br><br>> Send Greenbuilding mailing list submissions to<br>> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:greenbuilding@lists.bioenergylists.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">greenbuilding@lists.bioenergylists.org</a><br>><br>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br>> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/greenbuilding_lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; 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text-decoration: underline;">9watts@gmail.com</a>><br>> To: Greenbuilding <<a href="mailto:greenbuilding@lists.bioenergylists.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">greenbuilding@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>><br>> Subject: [Greenbuilding] forced air heating vent placement<br>> Message-ID:<br>> <<a href="mailto:CAE5fceB0kxKhTGAAqdOOWwTK26mXib8Jr3-gwXeJS7wwMJPY7g@mail.gmail.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">CAE5fceB0kxKhTGAAqdOOWwTK26mXib8Jr3-gwXeJS7wwMJPY7g@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br>><br>> There seems to be a tradition of placing these all the way out at exterior<br>> walls, and often under windows. Does this hark back to when windows were<br>> the coldest surfaces and this would--in combination with a floor vent--make<br>> for convective currents which could then be relied on to mix the warm air<br>> better?<br>> I'm in the process of adding four inches to the inside of the exterior<br>> walls on a 140 year old farmhouse and blowing a ton of cellulose into those<br>> deeper cavities. There will be exterior storm windows and the house overall<br>> should end up pretty tight and cozy even without the furnace turned on. I<br>> have to move some of these vents as they are too close to the existing<br>> wall; my temptation is to shorten the ducts, not just by a few inches but<br>> perhaps by a bunch. 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