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    PS.  I forgot to mention that it looks to us like our foundation is
    brick all the way down, with a large timber, like a railroad tie,
    sitting on top of it, with the rest of the house resting on that
    timber.  I do agree with one of the commenters that our main concern
    is more surviving the actual event, and less preserving the
    building.  Even with a 10% deductible, we'll have enough insurance
    money to build something and replace the contents.  So I am more
    interested in figuring out how to avoid the pancake scenario where
    the ceiling  and walls pancake down on us occupants.  One of my
    roomies said "Maybe we should build canopy beds that would be strong
    enough to hold up the roof."<br>
    <br>
    Someone mentioned liability of frackers, there are a few cases
    wending their way through the courts. It's interesting because they
    are setting up a clash of titans -- Oklahoma Oil Bidness verses the
    Oklahoma Insurance Bidness.  Everyone is generally amazed that the
    Corporation commission has actually moved as fast as it has to curb
    produced water injection well which people seem to think are the
    primary cause.  The further north you go in the OKC metro area, the
    more upscale the neighborhoods, and the most upscale neighborhoods
    are squarely within the heightened danger zone.  And also folks are
    amazed at how obedient the oil companies have been.  Only one
    company balked, and the legislature rammed through a bill this
    session with great haste confirming that the corporation commission
    does in fact have the authority to dictate injection pressures and
    volumes if earthquakes are happening in the area. <br>
    <br>
    So basically there's a giant science experiment going on -- "how
    much water can be injected at what pressures without causing a
    devastating earthquake or too many minor earthquakes."  <br>
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    rmw<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/30/2016 2:52 PM, Bob Waldrop
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      Thanks everyone for these detailed comments and suggestions. 
      There's a lot to take in, I'm printing the emails and will share
      them around a bit and see about coming up with a plan of action. 
      One "low hanging fruit" item we're taking care of this week is
      making sure that nothing furnishing-like can fall on us while in
      bed or casually sitting around.  This involves re-siting some
      large mirrors, paintings, and book cases. <br>
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      Bob Waldrop, Okie City<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/30/2016 8:32 AM, Alan Abrams
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        <div dir="ltr">Bob--<br>
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          imagining the Oklahoma version of "The Big One," I think the
          gravest danger is the collapse of the brick foundation walls.
          in our region,bricks from the 20's can be pretty soft, and the
          mortar can be powdery.
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          <div>if that all describes the scenario, simply anchoring the
            floor system to the top of the brick walls might be
            inadequate. the strength of the foundation walls would be
            limited to the compressive force exerted by the weight of
            the house above. in this sense, the weight of the brick
            veneer is your friend--but I think the veneer is going to be
            the first element to fail when things start to shake. The
            point being, that even if the floor is anchored, the
            foundation walls could rotate in, between corners. </div>
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          <div>one could of course jack up the house and install a new
            reinforced cmu or poured concrete foundation beneath it. Or
            form up and pour new walls against the existing walls.<br>
            <br>
            but less intrusively, one might strengthen the walls by
            increasing the compressive force--perhaps by excavating and
            installing a set of pier footings at intervals around the
            basement perimeter, each pier footing undermining the
            existing footing--maybe 2' wide or so. each pier would have
            a reinforced anchor bolt, to fasten some set of threaded
            rods and turnbuckles--which in turn would be bolted to the
            floor joists. Ideally, there would be two rods for each pier
            footing, run diagonally in opposite directions, parallel to
            the foundation walls. <br>
            <br>
            There a lot of boggling variables here--such as the moisture
            content and plasticity of the soil, height of backfill,
            direction of seismic waves--so sizing the footings and rods,
            and determining how many to install would be speculative.
            Maybe a big shaker would overcome this effort. Or maybe it
            would hold up long enough for you to escape before it all
            comes down. I don't envy your situation.</div>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 11:05 PM,
            ErgoDesk <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                  would reinforce your FIRE Insurance first.</div>
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                <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 11:40
                  AM, Jason Holstine <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                          I think you can find retrofit resources online
                          from California. I think their state emergency
                          mgmt agency, state NAHB, etc. have docs. It
                          could become a nice side biz tightening up
                          Okie corrals.
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                              On 3/29/16 1:41 PM, "Bob Waldrop" <<a
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                              wrote:<br>
                              <br>
                              <font color="#0000FF">> So here in
                                central Oklahoma, we have been
                                experiencing a growing series <br>
                                > of earthquakes over the last few
                                years.   The USGS just released a map <br>
                                > showing the risk of human-induced
                                earthquakes, and Okie City is right <br>
                                > there. The news said we were at
                                perhaps a 10% risk of a level 6 <br>
                                > earthquake.  Most of the thus far
                                have been in the 2 to 4 range.<br>
                                > <br>
                                > Now we are not only tornado alley,
                                but also earthquake central, more <br>
                                > earthquakes last year even than
                                California had.<br>
                                > <br>
                                > I lived in the Bay Area of
                                California and in SLC (on top of the
                                actual <br>
                                > wasatch fault a geologist friend
                                told me), and never experienced a <br>
                                > quake, but I've felt several here. 
                                I've also been watching the cracks <br>
                                > in the interior plaster/lathe walls
                                and my exterior brick veneer develop <br>
                                > and progress.<br>
                                > <br>
                                > I do have earthquake insurance, but
                                it is really only good for a <br>
                                > complete catastrophe.  It has a 10%
                                deductible, and it doesn't cover <br>
                                > masonry.<br>
                                > <br>
                                > The house has always seemed very
                                sturdy.  It was built in 1929, the <br>
                                > studs are on 12 to 14 inch centers
                                and are a hard wood.  THe sheathing <br>
                                > is 1 x 8 planks.  Then there is
                                brick veneer over that. The foundation <br>
                                > is brick.  The back and front porch
                                construction seems separate from the <br>
                                > rest of the house. The concrete
                                front porch is certainly pulling away <br>
                                > from the rest of the house over the
                                16 years I've lived here.<br>
                                > <br>
                                > Any thoughts about retrofits that
                                would strengthen the house in the face <br>
                                > of the growing earthquake risk
                                here?<br>
                                > <br>
                                > Bob Waldrop, Okie and Shaky City<br>
                                > <br>
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