<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">In 1975, we bought an abandoned church, built in 1852, whose original windows I rejuvenated. It had been converted to a school house in 1910, whereupon one new,<div>factory made window was installed, by Mohawk, predecessor of Anderson. The older windows, presumably heart pine, and put together with wooden pegs, were in better shape. </div><div>I had 6 units, not all perfect, and reassembled 4; the beauty of pegged construction. I think that the quality of that old growth pine was crucial. Last used as a school in 1929,</div><div>that last coat of milk paint was mostly still on, no less then 46 years later.<br><div apple-content-edited="true">
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widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Clarke Olsen<br><a href="http://clarkeolsendesign.com">clarkeolsendesign.com</a><br>373 route 203<br>Spencertown, NY 12165 <br>USA<br>518-392-4640<br>colsen@taconic.net<br><br><br><br></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></span>
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<br><div><div>On May 9, 2016, at 4:54 PM, Reuben Deumling <<a href="mailto:9watts@gmail.com">9watts@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">I forgot. If you use cedar you don't even need paint. Lots of ways to make this work, but my guess would be that well made wood windows which they owner keeps an eye on will outlast vinyl and much of the rest of the competition, not to mention keep the money local, be beautiful, and avoid poisoning the poor slobs who get to work in the vinyl factories. <br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 1:51 PM, Reuben Deumling <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:9watts@gmail.com" target="_blank">9watts@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Paint. <br><br></div>You can't ignore them for a decade or more (without storm windows) and expect those on the weather side to remain happy and whole indefinitely, But the windows in my house are 122 years old, and even with neglect are OK. One or two of the sashes would have appreciated getting some more attention than they did, but the rest are excellent. <br></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 12:49 PM, Michael O'Brien <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:obrien@hevanet.com" target="_blank">obrien@hevanet.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Hi, Reuben--</div><div><br></div><div>Many things to like about wood windows, but what about weather exposure? Don't they need some cladding or coating to withstand UV and water?<br><br>Best, Mike<div>Sent from my iPhone</div></div><div><div><br>On May 9, 2016, at 12:16 PM, Reuben Deumling <<a href="mailto:9watts@gmail.com" target="_blank">9watts@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Windows have become for me a central, fraught issue when it comes to buildings. I've met several wood window makers who have a local (and by default historical/restoration) focus and who prefer single pane. It took me a number of years and lots of experimenting to come around to their preference for single pane/antipathy to double pane. To date I have sourced my storm windows from the same window makers. <br><br></div>We are engulfed by a tidal wave of window <i>upgrades </i>where (typically) original double hung single pane wood windows are yanked out and tossed into the dumpster, replaced by vinyl crap. Energy authorities love this, and most people who do this assume they are doing the right thing, in large part because almost no one objects, disagrees, or points to viable alternatives. <br><br></div>Aesthetically, philosophically, environmentally, even economically, a set of handmade wood windows are hard to beat. <br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Sacie Lambertson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sacie.lambertson@gmail.com" target="_blank">sacie.lambertson@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex; position: relative; z-index: 0;"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Me too. I'm interested in finding some very good triple glazed windows. Would appreciate Reuben's info as well. Where do your storms come from Reuben? Interesting what you suggest about thermopanes. Wonder if there is some consensus on this?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Stephen T. from Thermotech used to post regularly on this forum.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">I checked out 'best' windows and found, while T. are considered very good windows, their service is not good, or wasn't for the number of people who posted such. They are definitely still around.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">John Straube mentioned a C. manufacturer out of his West but in contacting them they didn't look like a good fit for our Mid West (Kansas). </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">I'm also looking for someone who can rebuild good old old windows. Close to Kansas City.</div><span><font color="#888888"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Sacie</div></font></span></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Lynelle Hamilton <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lynelle@lahamilton.com" target="_blank">lynelle@lahamilton.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><p><font face="Arial">Hi Folks,</font></p><p><font face="Arial">Am looking for windows for the new part of the
house. I'd used Thermotech (Ottawa) last time, but don't know if
they are still around. The house faces NW, onto a lake, so efficiency
is important. As always, I want the best for the best price.
What have folks used and like?</font></p><p><font face="Arial">Thanks in advance!</font></p><p><font face="Arial"><br>
Lynelle Hamilton<br>
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