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<div class="moz-forward-container">Hi John, <br>
<p>Actually, I DO like it, although I don't know if the
tradespeople will. My daughter and I made something similar for
their camping trips (4 girls under 9 mean a lot of trips to the
loo at night). <br>
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<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>Lynelle<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2017-07-11 6:19 PM, John Salmen
wrote:<br>
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not going to like this suggestion – all I can say is they
are cheap, the technology works extremely well for
composting - and as a reference I had a very motivated
vegan client in Portland (ad Dr. no less) who used these
in all of the bathrooms of his turn of the century house.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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href="http://www.appropedia.org/How_to_make_and_use_a_sawdust_toilet"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.appropedia.org/How_to_make_and_use_a_sawdust_toilet</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">this
plan is decent and works surprisingly well – no bins to
empty – but I would spend a little mental energy on
drilling out and attaching some venting (computer fan
works well).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">I
designed and built quite a few toilet systems decades ago.
Not an easy thing if you are trying to make everything
work. It is difficult to make a vented, liquid tight
system – which is why commercial composting toilets are
basically useless. If they deal with liquid they use heat
– baked poop. I did design a very nice toilet for a client
that circulated liquid as a spray that both denitrifies
and allows for some evaporation (it was a handpump –
similar to a flush handle and children especially enjoyed
that feature). This was a permanent installation that is
still in use 20 years later but was expensive. The venting
was complex but was essentially a well designed chimney.
It was a flip system (2 containers – each lasted one year
allowing the previous years collection to be emptied after
a year – a dry compost at that point).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Ironically
I think the bucket system is the best. Like a large dog
poop bag – but with better followup.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">For
the 5 gal. bucket toilet - Swap the buckets out as soon as
you want to – buy as many buckets as you need. Seal with
lids (leaving the vent hole open) and date the buckets –
leave them for 1 year or so and then use as a tree
fertilizer – can give them a shake every now and then but
mouldering is effective.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
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lang="EN-US"> Greenbuilding [<a
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lynelle Hamilton<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 11, 2017 2:41 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Green Building<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Greenbuilding] Composting Toilet<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Gill Sans
MT","sans-serif"">Hi All, </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Gill Sans
MT","sans-serif"">Has anyone had any
experience with self-contained composting toilets? I am
putting one in my temporary living space, while I build. I
may leave the unit in the structure afterward. I'd prefer
one that does not require specialized venting parts (some
do) and that does not require a drain to send liquids to
the outside, but will consider one if the unit is clearly
a better choice. I've looked at Sun-Mar, Excel and one
from Sutherland Ontario, but have no idea which models
perform well. It's for one person. Cost, of course, is a
factor!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Gill Sans
MT","sans-serif"">Many thanks!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Gill Sans
MT","sans-serif"">Lynelle</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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