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    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Gill Sans MT">Hi Reuben,</font></font></p>
    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Gill Sans MT">I've been picking the
          extensive brainpower here for nearly 17 years. I'm certain
          I've gotten much more back than I've given. The proper name for
          what I call a strip drain is a trough drain. The URL is of a
          sample (I would not buy from the supplier noted--they are
          expensive. That said, it was the best pic on a quick internet
          search.)</font></font></p>
    <p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.wayfair.ca/QuARTz-by-ACO-Wavy-Linear-36-Grid-Shower-Drain-37241-L626-K~ARTZ1001.html?refid=GX181716672395-ARTZ1001&device=c&ptid=152654793900&targetid=pla-152654793900">https://www.wayfair.ca/QuARTz-by-ACO-Wavy-Linear-36-Grid-Shower-Drain-37241-L626-K~ARTZ1001.html?refid=GX181716672395-ARTZ1001&device=c&ptid=152654793900&targetid=pla-152654793900</a></p>
    <p>Lynelle<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2017-07-31 12:52 AM, Reuben Deumling
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          <div>I do love this list. Can't believe I've been pestering
            you folks with questions for almost 18 years here. <br>
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          I am not familiar with a strip drain in a shower, though I
          think I understand the thinking that would suggest looking
          into something like this. Are there examples of these you
          could point me to? <br>
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        thanks all!<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 6:39 PM,
          Lynelle Hamilton <span dir="ltr"><<a
              href="mailto:lynelle@lahamilton.com" target="_blank"
              moz-do-not-send="true">lynelle@lahamilton.com</a>></span>
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              <p><font face="Arial">I've had two curbless showers (both
                  installed in a concrete slab). Sloped both to the
                  drain (3") cement, epdm, mortar and tile (flat stones
                  in the last one). Worked like a charm. NEVER had any
                  overflow problems. Will install one in the new place,
                  but use a strip drain as mentioned in previous posts.
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              <p><font face="Arial">Lynelle</font><br>
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                  <div class="m_-9052430004533052903moz-cite-prefix">On
                    2017-07-30 7:07 PM, Norbert Senf wrote:<br>
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                    <div dir="ltr">This page has good instructions,
                      including a video of how to do the EPDM corners:<br>
                      <a
                        href="https://www.askmediy.com/how-to-make-a-shower-pan/"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.askmediy.com/how-<wbr>to-make-a-shower-pan/</a><br>
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                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at
                        7:01 PM, Reuben Deumling <span dir="ltr"><<a
                            href="mailto:9watts@gmail.com"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">9watts@gmail.com</a>></span>
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                            <div>I'm coming around to the curb idea. I
                              thought I'd learned here in response to a
                              previous question that a curb was
                              unnecessary, but with a plugged drain
                              scenario, yeah... <br>
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                            EPDM pan sounds good to me. Would you slope
                            the floor beneath the EPDM? Is this a matter
                            of sourcing some of it and carefully folding
                            the corners? <br>
                            Mortar - I can work with that. <br>
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                            <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jul 30,
                              2017 at 3:33 PM, RT <span dir="ltr"><<a
                                  href="mailto:ArchiLogic@yahoo.ca"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ArchiLogic@yahoo.ca</a>></span>
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                                  <div>Reuben;</div>
                                  <div>Can't see any sketch and I don't
                                    know what you've seen on-line but
                                    IMO, plopping down some mortar on
                                    top of an EPDM pan is a lot easier
                                    and quicker nd ultimately less
                                    costly in terms of time and
                                    materials  than futzing with wood
                                    and cement board to make a sloped
                                    shower floor tile base.</div>
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                                  <div>re: No curb</div>
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                                  </div>
                                  <div>Let's say the shower drain gets
                                    plugged with hair (or worse) and
                                    someone has turned on the shower and
                                    let it run unattended (or similar)
                                    and a few gallons of water have not
                                    found their way down the drain. 
                                    Could easily happen.</div>
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                                  </div>
                                  <div>How does the "no curb" design
                                    handle such a scenario ?  Is there a
                                    gutter somewhere else that leads to
                                    a drain ?</div>
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                                      <div>On Sun, 30 Jul 2017 15:23:23
                                        -0400, Reuben Deumling <<a
                                          href="mailto:9watts@gmail.com"
                                          target="_blank"
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                                                <div>Is there any reason
                                                  I can't cut a bunch of
                                                  shallow wedges laid in
                                                  a radial pattern that
                                                  feather toward the
                                                  drain, nail cement
                                                  board on top, tape the
                                                  seams and lay down the
                                                  tile? <br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  This seems a lot
                                                  simpler than some of
                                                  the instructions I
                                                  find online. My sketch
                                                  above doesn't include
                                                  any membrane or
                                                  treatment of the seams
                                                  where this sloped
                                                  floor meets walls. The
                                                  shower in question is
                                                  in the corner of a
                                                  small upstairs
                                                  bathroom. The walls
                                                  will be tiled and I
                                                  would like/think I can
                                                  get away with avoiding
                                                  a step/lip where the
                                                  sloped floor meets the
                                                  rest of the bathroom
                                                  floor<br>
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                                              All thoughts and
                                              suggestions are welcome.<br>
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                                            Thanks<br>
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                                          Reuben<br>
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