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    <p><font size="-1"><font face="Verdana">Hi Lynelle, <br>
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          <font face="Verdana">I hope you consider <font face="Verdana">cellulose.
              Using cellulose, especially the brands manufactured that
              use recycled newsprint, will off-set climate change
              immediately, by sequestering a few tons of carbon in your
              attic. Using foam immediately sends carbon into the
              atmosphere during it's manufacturing, and during it's
              spraying, and sequesters nothing except future land fill
              and slow petrochemical breakdown over the next while.
              Cellulose is a winner, and always worth considering into a
              reno or design.<br>
              <br>
              <font face="Verdana">My 2 cents<<br>
                <font face="Verdana">Frank Tettemer</font></font></font></font></font></font><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2018-07-06 12:54 PM, Norbert Senf
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      <div dir="ltr">It depends on how tight you actually are. If you
        are tight, foam won't add tightness. If you are not, it depends
        on the height of your building envelope and how much positive
        pressure there is at the ceiling to drive exfiltration on a cold
        night. Loose pack cellulose won't provide any reduction for
        pressure driven exfiltration.  ... Norbert<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 12:26 PM,
          Lynelle Hamilton <span dir="ltr"><<a
              href="mailto:lynelle@lahamilton.com" target="_blank"
              moz-do-not-send="true">lynelle@lahamilton.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">Thanks, Jeff. I've
              never used open cell foam or indeed any foam in an attic
              space, so had no idea it was advantageous at all.<br>
              <br>
              <div class="gmail_quote">On July 6, 2018 11:45:10 AM EDT,
                Jeff Martin <<a href="mailto:jeff@open2learn.ca"
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jeff@open2learn.ca</a>>
                wrote:
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                  <div dir="auto">Lynelle, <br>
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                  <div dir="auto">From your description, the area is
                    already well air sealed and 16 inches or so of
                    cellulose should provide fairly good resistance to
                    air infiltration where there are small leaks. I
                    don't see any advantage to using foam, especially at
                    twice the price. <br>
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                  <div dir="auto">Jeff <br>
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Jul 6, 2018, at 9:03 AM,
                    "Lynelle A. Hamilton" <<a
                      href="mailto:lynelle@lahamilton.com"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">lynelle@lahamilton.com</a>>
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                      <p><font size="+1"><font face="Gill Sans MT">Hi
                            All,</font></font></p>
                      <p><font size="+1"><font face="Gill Sans MT">Again,
                            I ask this group for advice!  Am insulating
                            an attic space. It's 720 sq feet. The roof
                            is a north facing slope and gets a lot of
                            wind all year, including winter. There is a
                            48 ft ridge vent and hand-built vents.
                            Location is Greater Toronto area, so
                            definitely a heating climate.<br>
                          </font></font></p>
                      <p><font size="+1"><font face="Gill Sans MT">We've
                            installed vapour barrier, in anticipation of
                            using blown in cellulose to attain R60.
                            We've been careful to seal all openings,
                            including the area around the access hatch
                            and there are no pot lights. The one duct
                            that runs in the attic (bathroom vent fan)
                            is insulated. <br>
                          </font></font></p>
                      <p><font size="+1"><font face="Gill Sans MT">I've
                            had two contractors (both in the field for
                            some time) suggest using open cell (1/2
                            pound) foam, as it will fully seal the attic
                            area and allow less heat, condensation, etc.
                            At R60, it's about twice the price of
                            cellulose, though.<br>
                          </font></font></p>
                      <p><font size="+1"><font face="Gill Sans MT">I've
                            no concern about the ability of either
                            contractor to appropriately install.<br>
                          </font></font></p>
                      <p><font size="+1"><font face="Gill Sans MT">I've
                            pored through all of John Salmen's videos
                            and articles that I can access about best
                            approach in this setting but confess that
                            I'm no less perplexed. <br>
                          </font></font></p>
                      <p><font size="+1"><font face="Gill Sans MT">Any
                            thoughts, folks?</font></font></p>
                      <p><font size="+1"><font face="Gill Sans MT">Thanks
                            in advance!</font></font></p>
                      <p><font size="+1"><font face="Gill Sans MT">Lynelle</font></font><br>
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