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    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Gill Sans MT">I have a Durisol/Nexcem
          house, second one, actually. It is well-sealed and has
          additional insulation to total approx. R40 in the wall
          assembly. The temperature does not fluctuate widely, although
          the house is still under construction and has only partial
          ceiling insulation at the moment. During the last heat wave we
          had in Ontario, the house remained cool, although humidity
          increased to uncomfortable levels eventually. The mini-split
          isn't hooked up in the new house as yet, but we did open
          windows and it wasn't unbearable. Standing in front of the
          south facing wall outside was another matter entirely...<br>
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    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Gill Sans MT">Within reason, we don't
          seem to pay attention as much to temp; we notice temp <i>fluctuations</i>,
          Avoiding those to a great degree means I can set the heat
          lower in the winter and usually avoid a/c altogether in the
          summer, (using only the dehumidifier option on the
          mini-split.) </font></font><br>
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    <font size="+1" face="Gill Sans MT">My (Canadian) nickel's worth, as
      we no longer have pennies.<br>
      <br>
      Lynelle Hamilton</font><br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2018-07-15 3:10 AM, Paul Hadfield
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        <pre style="white-space:pre-wrap;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">Reuben says: "Thermal mass (such as a brick or stone wall) would I think do a much better job producing comfortably cool summer evenings, but would not accomplish much in the winter"</pre>
        <pre style="white-space:pre-wrap;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">As Mike says, doesn't thermal mass provide a flywheel of heat through cold periods, as <a href="https://www.detail-online.com/article/house-without-heating-office-building-in-austria-16667/" moz-do-not-send="true">building 2226</a> (non-domestic, admittedly) shows?</pre>
        <pre style="white-space:pre-wrap;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">Paul Hadfield.</pre>
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               1. Year-round thermal comfort & insulation (Reuben
            Deumling)<br>
               2. Re: Year-round thermal comfort & insulation (Mike
            O'Brien)<br>
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            ---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>
            From: Reuben Deumling <<a href="mailto:9watts@gmail.com"
              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">9watts@gmail.com</a>><br>
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            Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2018 07:43:24 -0700<br>
            Subject: [Greenbuilding] Year-round thermal comfort &
            insulation<br>
            <div>I like insulation: the more the better as far as I'm
              concerned. For keeping the cold out (speaking
              colloquially) I've found that careful attention to air
              sealing and insulation pays huge dividends. But for
              keeping the summer heat out, I'm finding that the same
              insulation does a far less admirable job. Stretches of
              direct sun not only manage to heat up the room/house, it
              feels like the insulation then does a good job of holding
              that just-gained heat in. While cool nights with the
              windows open typically solves the problem in our
              relatively mild PNW climate I'm still perplexed why the
              seasonal symmetry I (naively) expected is not evident. </div>
            <div>The walls in question have two parallel but isolated
              sets of studs and as much dense packed cellulose as I my
              Forec 2 insulation blower can force into the nooks and
              crannies. Thermal mass (such as a brick or stone wall)
              would I think do a much better job producing comfortably
              cool summer evenings, but would not accomplish much in the
              winter. Are there hybrid wall assemblies I'm not aware
              for? What am I missing?</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Planned remedies: learn to make exterior shutters,
              plant more trees.</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Thanks!</div>
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            From: "Mike O'Brien" <<a href="mailto:obrien@hevanet.com"
              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">obrien@hevanet.com</a>><br>
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            Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2018 08:40:38 -0700<br>
            Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] Year-round thermal comfort
            & insulation<br>
            <div style="word-wrap:break-word">Hi, Reuben—
              <div><br>
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              <div>In our house we used lots of insulation, and also
                thermal mass. The house is built on a slab, the southern
                end has a clay finish floor, it has Durasol walls on the
                south side, and there is a cob wall in the interior. We
                also installed an ecoroof on the south facing side,
                which helps reduce thermal gains on that area. I believe
                the thermal mass helps dampen the temperature swings,
                especially noticable in extreme weather. The west-facing
                windows are shaded by a big cedar tree and a (sprawling)
                wisteria, and the west-facing roof has solar water
                panels on it. With your same night-flushing strategy,
                our house remains comfortable, even when the outdoors is
                in the 90s.<br>
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                <div> Best,<br>
                  <br>
                  Mike<br>
                  (503) 819-8991<br>
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                  <div>On Jul 14, 2018, at 7:43 AM, Reuben Deumling <<a
                      href="mailto:9watts@gmail.com" target="_blank"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">9watts@gmail.com</a>>
                    wrote:</div>
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                    <div>I like insulation: the more the better as far
                      as I'm concerned. For keeping the cold out
                      (speaking colloquially) I've found that careful
                      attention to air sealing and insulation pays huge
                      dividends. But for keeping the summer heat out,
                      I'm finding that the same insulation does a far
                      less admirable job. Stretches of direct sun not
                      only manage to heat up the room/house, it feels
                      like the insulation then does a good job of
                      holding that just-gained heat in. While cool
                      nights with the windows open typically solves the
                      problem in our relatively mild PNW climate I'm
                      still perplexed why the seasonal symmetry I
                      (naively) expected is not evident. </div>
                    <div>The walls in question have two parallel but
                      isolated sets of studs and as much dense packed
                      cellulose as I my Forec 2 insulation blower can
                      force into the nooks and crannies. Thermal mass
                      (such as a brick or stone wall) would I think do a
                      much better job producing comfortably cool summer
                      evenings, but would not accomplish much in the
                      winter. Are there hybrid wall assemblies I'm not
                      aware for? What am I missing?</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>Planned remedies: learn to make exterior
                      shutters, plant more trees.</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>Thanks!</div>
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