[Stoves] re The Ccharcoal project

[Paal wendelbo]

Crispin 

Pity for the forest in Tanzania as you did not get my point. And I understand your results of your calculations when you compare leisure energy in Canada with household energy in Africa. 

 Regards Paal W 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Crispin Pemberton-Pigott 
  To: 'Discussion of biomass cooking stoves' 
  Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 11:42 AM
  Subject: Re: [Stoves] re The Ccharcoal project


  Dear Paal

   

  Regarding the transport of charcoal, I am sure you have seen 10 tons of charcoal on a 7 ton truck. Nothing unusual about that sight. I am not sure of the relevance of that you your other points about end user opinion and charcoal production.

   

  What would be helpful is if you would engage the topic of sustainable charcoal production. People want to use it as a fuel because it is nice, simple as that. Lots of people in Canada who can afford any fuel they want choose to cook meat with charcoal. It is a market that is going to last as long as there is cooking, as far as I can see.

   

  No one wants to waste the heat produced during the production of charcoal. It would be great of people in rural areas could generate power form the gases and use it, and sell the charcoal to people in cities. The maximum economic benefit would be spread over the largest number of people that way. It would also spread  sustainable power generation and charcoal production over a large enough area of land to make a sustainable living for the maximum number of people.

   

  My point is that your position 'against charcoal' is too extreme. You can't be 'against' something that has a niche in the energy equation. Some are proposing to send wood into the cities, make char there and ship the char back. Think of the energy inefficiency that entails. There are (not yet anyway) wood powered road vehicles that can operate on the sustainable energy originating on the farms. 

   

  Char production can supply high quantities of 'process heat' for powering all sorts of things on the farms. Farmers should be allowing nothing to leave their land unless it is as processed as possible in that region. That takes energy. Turning local produce into exportable products (which includes processed fuels) is the opportunity that we should not kill because we don't like someone's current wasteful methods.

   

  Regards

  Crispin

   



------------------------------------------------------------------------------


  _______________________________________________
  Stoves mailing list

  to Send a Message to the list, use the email address
  stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org

  to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page
  http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org

  for more Biomass Cooking Stoves,  News and Information see our web site:
  http://www.bioenergylists.org/

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.bioenergylists.org/pipermail/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org/attachments/20110828/6c95f5d0/attachment.html>