[Stoves] Use of furnace emissions testing equipment

[Paul S. Anderson]

Dear Tom and all,

Second message ala Tom's message (below) that raises two questions  
(each gets a separate Subject line).

1.  We missed Crispin and his portable emissions tester this year at  
ETHOS, and Tom did not have his equipment available.

2.  To the best of my knowledge, neither Aprovecho nor any  
installation of the PEMS equipment does not have TSI or Testo testing  
equipment, so no correlations have been made between the results of  
these different types of equipment.

3.  Perhaps someone (Tami maybe?) could tell us if the several  
different types/sources of equipment will be incorporated into the new  
testing protocols, and how, or even if they should be or not.

4.  Tom mentions "Winter stove camp."  Some people went to Aprovecho  
last week before ETHOS and some might be there this week.  But if he  
is referring to the BEF Stove Camp in central Illinois, that camp is  
NEXT week (gather in the evening of 6 Feb, and then have camp  
(indoors) on 7 - 11 Feb.)  Info is at
www.tridecca.com/bef   for all the BEF Camps.

5.  YES, the BEF Camp in Illinois next week will have use of a furnace  
emissions tester if that is a special interest of the participants.   
We have enough participants already, but a few more could still join  
it.  (contact me ASAP at the phone number below.)

-- 
Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Known to some as:  Dr. TLUD    Doc    Professor
Phone (USA): 309-452-7072   SKYPE: paultlud   Email: psanders at ilstu.edu



Quoting Tom Miles <tmiles at trmiles.com>:

> Crispin,
>
> Good thoughts. The Jatropha discussion was "toxic" in that it stimulated
> quite a lively debate. We probably got more heat from the discussion than
> from the stove on a cold and slightly windy day. No pot. It clearly needs
> some careful testing. Good project for Winter stove camp (this week?)
>
> I didn't bring either of my testers. Unfortunately my TSI is in repair
> (after burning it up testing a gasifier) and my Testo is in use at a steam
> boiler. Stovers don't seem to carry them. I would have liked to have tested
> the two Aprovecho charcoal stoves that were demonstrated.
>
> Tom
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: stoves-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org
> [mailto:stoves-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of Crispin
> Pemberton-Pigott
> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 8:28 PM
> To: 'Discussion of biomass cooking stoves'
> Subject: Re: [Stoves] [Jatropha cake properties]
>
> Dear Tom
>
> Thanks to Tom, Dr Tom and Dr Paul
>
> Did you put a pot on it? I am interested in whether or not the flames
> touched the pot more than usual. That has to be judged by someone who knows
> the stove and other fuels well. If the fuel is oilier, will it make the
> flames longer to the point that they run along the pot creating more CO?
>
> It may be that a J-seed stove needs a different flame path length to get
> great performance.
>
> Jes' thinkin'
> Crispin
>
>
> ++++++++
> Burning Jatropha seed in a Tom Reed Woodgas Stove at ETHOS 2011. No
> emergency vehicles were called and no adverse symptoms were recorded by
> observers. Greatest danger was that the seeds "pop" occasionally.
>
> Thanks to Paul Anderson for the demonstration.
>
> Tom Miles
>
>
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