[Stoves] TLUD before 1985 needs documentation

[Paul S. Anderson]

Dear Crispin,

I respectfully request proper and adequate documentation to support  
your statement.
>> There is a company in Turkey called SILVER that makes TLUD stoves  
>> and has been doing so since 1958.

I found something that might relate, but certainly does not  
substantiate being TLUD combustion technology:

http://www.alibaba.com/countrysearch/TR/solid-stove.html

As the "unofficial self-appointed historian of all things TLUD", I  
state that data is needed not only of what those stoves are actually  
today, but what they were in the pre-1985 period.

We will gladly acknowledge prior-art (so far, nothing before 1985), or  
truly independent development (as is the case with Paal Wendelbo's  
Peko Pe), but only when the evidence is in hand.

We are all busy, and I do not expect a fully researched response  
immediately, so in the mean time let's not propagate rumors or  
incomplete analyses.

Note:  The defining characteristic of the TLUD gasifiers is the  
"migrating pyrolysis front" (could be called the MPZ), and not the  
fact that some stove has upward moving air (most do) and the initial  
fire is at the top of the fuel pile (as could be done in many common  
stove devices, but with poor results on emissions).

-- 
Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Known to some as:  Dr. TLUD    Doc    Professor
Phone (USA): 309-452-7072   SKYPE: paultlud   Email: psanders at ilstu.edu


> On Jan 18, 2011, at 7:03 PM, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott wrote:
>
>> There is a company in Turkey called SILVER that makes TLUD stoves  
>> and has been doing so since 1958. I am in fact reprocessing a test  
>> done in December on one of them, not the smallest version. It peaks  
>> three times at 24 kW during the burn. It behaves badly and needs  
>> better secondary air which I found easy to add. They it was really  
>> good.  I think they had never had a test done before, certainly not  
>> one with gases and PM.  Lots of potential with small modifications.
>>
>> So TLUD is not all that new I guess. It keeps getting rediscovered  
>> because it is a good system at least for some applications.

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