[Stoves] re stove cost

[Paul Olivier]

Paal,

You completely missed the point I was trying to get across.

Thanks.
Paul Olivier

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Paal wendelbo <paaw at online.no> wrote:

> **
>
> Dear stovers******
>
>             Charity and subsidising has not solved any long term poverty
> problems in the world rather opposite. Mass production and marked economy
> has not ether solved any problem of poverty. Coca Cola with it’s coloured
> water and sugar is mentioned, what long term poverty problem has that
> solved?****
>
>             GACC with it’s 100M  ****FES** and clean burning stove
> program has an unique possibility to do something for the poor  in
> developing countries but not with charity and subsidizing . Following this
> discussion on the list I feel there is a need of rethinking of the whole
> task.****
>
>             Household energy is felt different by people trying to
> survive on 2 $ day and those with 200 $ a day. And I feel the documentation
> of Cecil Cook about charcoal consumption in ****Lusaka**** could be a
> good foundation for further discussion.****
>
>             Dr.TLUD Anderson and Dean Still know exactly how simple the
> technique of clean combustion is. With one or two empty tin cans, a **4”**nail and a
>   hammer it’s possible to make an excellent clean burning device at no
> cost to be put under the pot for cooking and which can utilise a lot of
> different types of fuel. The only obstacles to this is there will be no
> need of charity and no need of subsidizing and no money to make for the
> rich world and the Chinese mass producers****
>
>             So why not start in the other end. Start to train
> schoolchildren on all levels in clean combustion and how to obtain it.
> Train different types of biomass fuel to be used in the tins and how to
> collect it and hove to make briquettes etc. All this children will after
> some few years will be users of household energy. Some will be tinsmiths;
> some will be fuel producers and some selling more advanced stoves for
> biomass fuel. What are the obstacles to carry out such a program to almost
> no cost? ****
>
> With regards Paal W****
>
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