[Stoves] Stove ID please - 2-pot stoves - testing needed

[Paul Anderson]

Crispin and Dale and all,

The topic is the 2-pot stove structure (from two commercial suppliers 
and for other sources).   And NOT the heat creation unit (which may or 
may not be built into the 2-pot stove structure).

For clarification of this, lets be sure that Dale's wood-fire simulator 
(natural gas) is considered as equally appropriate as the heat source as 
would be the Rocket devices or the TLUD devices.

Dale, this would be right up your alley.   Heat transfer.

And this shows how good stove testing could be done by someone who is 
NOT a testing center.   And Dale should NOT be expected to do this work 
on his own time (unless he chooses to do so, with approval by his 
employer who has the equipment.).

Do we (Stover community including all of the GACC Partners and GACC 
leadership) have a mechanism to get this task accomplished? Perhaps some 
Stove Testing Center that gets a considerable chunk of money from GACC 
could sub-contract Dale (or other appropriate person) to get this job 
done for a relatively small cost.

By the way, how much financial support is the GACC actually putting into 
the hands of the Testing Centers?   and with what requirements?    I 
assume that these are "transparent" transactions already done or soon to 
be done or at least being planned.

And how can people like us Stovers with this very specific request 
actually get this testing onto the agenda in general and/or at a 
specific testing site?   This is certainly "technology neutral" and 
eligible to be financially supported.

Imagine, if we had good data about these 2-pot "attachments", there 
could be some very beneficial results ready for anyone to implement.

And are there already results in the hands of Prakti and Envirofit and 
others that would be useful if known by others?

Paul

Paul S. Anderson, PhD  aka "Dr TLUD"
Email:  psanders at ilstu.edu   Skype: paultlud  Phone: +1-309-452-7072
Website:  www.drtlud.com

On 12/31/2012 1:16 PM, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott wrote:
>
> Dear Dean
>
> Thanks for that clarification.
>
> Paul's request for research into stove structures or types of 
> structures is interesting in that stoves are not usually well classed 
> as 'structures' but rather 'models' of some prototypical stove design.
>
> Paul, I am not sure how you would design such research but it surely 
> would have to include a well vetted evaluation method that gave 
> results which could be used to interpret the structure as being the 
> cause an improvement (or not).
>
> Given the 4 major influences: user, fuel, cooking vessel and the 
> stove, it would be worth spending some time to design the experiment 
> which would show that the stove (or structure of the stove) was the 
> contributing variable.
>
> I suspect that Dale Andreatta's wood fire simulator is one approach. 
> If everyone recalls, he performed a number of heat transfer efficiency 
> tests using multiple thermocouples and a standard gas-fuelled fire 
> with a controlled gas flow rate.
>
> Regards
>
> Crispin saying bye-bye to the Old Year
>
>
>
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