[Stoves] [Ethos] Biochar Stove Discussion at ETHOS
Tom Miles Easystreet
tmiles at trmiles.com
Sun Jan 1 20:35:17 CST 2012
Thanks Ken. We'll see who else might be available.
Tom
T R Miles Technical Consultants Inc. 503-780-8185
tmiles at trmiles.com
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On Jan 1, 2012, at 6:12 PM, Ken <islandcanyons at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Tom and all,
> I had an email from Art Donnelly a couple of weeks ago saying that he would be in Costa Rica until May.
>
> Ken
>
> From: Tom Miles <tmiles at trmiles.com>;
> To: <crispinpigott at gmail.com>; 'Discussion of biomass cooking stoves' <stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org>;
> Subject: Re: [Stoves] [Ethos] Biochar Stove Discussion at ETHOS
> Sent: Mon, Jan 2, 2012 1:15:13 AM
>
> Good suggestion. If we can get Paul, Art and Nathan I'd be happy to moderate
> the discussion.
>
> Tom
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: stoves-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org
> [mailto:stoves-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of Crispin
> Pemberton-Pigott
> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2012 1:10 PM
> To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves
> Subject: Re: [Stoves] [Ethos] Biochar Stove Discussion at ETHOS
>
> How about World Stove users in Rwanda? I heard at least once they are
> bringing in the char.
> Crispin
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Tom Miles" <tmiles at trmiles.com>
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> Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 10:20:57
> To: <ethos at vrac.iastate.edu>; 'Discussion of biomass cooking
> stoves'<stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org>; 'Bryden, Kenneth [M
> E]'<kmbryden at iastate.edu>; <angiemcg at iastate.edu>
> Reply-To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves
> <stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org>
> Cc: 'Kathy Nafie'<kathy.nafie162 at gmail.com>; <pwever at chipenergy.com>; 'Hugh
> McLaughlin'<wastemin1 at verizon.net>; <biochar at yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [Stoves] [Ethos] Biochar Stove Discussion at ETHOS
>
> Paul,
>
> Art Donnelly or someone from Seachar should be on the panel if he is not in
> Costa Rica. Who else has worked in the field with biochar from stoves?
>
> Do we have enough information, or field experience, to know whether biochar
> from stoves has been adopted and used by cooks? Does the shoe fit? I suspect
> that in getting used to a new stove, like a TLUD, it takes the cook awhile
> to buy into it. Saving the charcoal is another step. Making biochar of
> different qualities for different purposes would be another step. How does
> using a biochar stove differ from using the fines from an earth kiln,
> beehive kiln, Adam retort, Pronatura kiln or other charcoal making device
> that might be is use nearby?
>
> If we have the cast these topics would be useful.
>
> Tom
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ethos-bounces at vrac.iastate.edu [mailto:ethos-bounces at vrac.iastate.edu]
> On Behalf Of Paul S. Anderson
> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2012 8:20 AM
> To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves; Bryden, Kenneth [M E];
> angiemcg at iastate.edu
> Cc: Hugh McLaughlin; Kathy Nafie; pwever at chipenergy.com;
> biochar at yahoogroups.com; ETHOS - Listserve
> Subject: Re: [Ethos] [Stoves] Biochar Stove Discussion at ETHOS
>
> Dear all,
>
> I totally agree with the Tom and Mark about having a panel on biochar at the
> ETHOS 2012 meeting at the end of this month (January).
>
> I submit the following additional information:
>
> 1. I offer to be on the panel. I attend biochar conferences and frequently
> present about biochar production. I think that I should NOT organize nor
> lead the panel.
>
> 2. Let's define what biochar issues will be focal, and which will be
> secondary. Tom Miles wrote:
> > I think the emphasis should be on field experiences with the use of
> > char in developing countries more than on stoves that make char.
>
> However, ETHOS is NOT a group of soil and plant scientists, nor is it
> focused on climate change. Summary statements about the secondary topics
> could be useful. But our primary focus actually is the ability of
> cookstoves to make char (and what types of char?) and in what quantities and
> with what fuel feedstocks.
>
> 3. I am sbmitting today (via this message to Angie) my abstract for a
> presentation at ETHOS. I would like this to be a regular presentation that
> is at any time slot before the panel discussion.
>
> *******************
>
> Abstract for ETHOS 2012
>
> Title: Micro-gasification for Combined Heat and Biochar (CHAB) in "Mini"
> Industries
>
> Authors: Paul S. Anderson, Charles Anglin, Art Donnelly and Paul W. Wever
>
> Abstract:
> Micro-gasification devices at "mini" sizes from 20 to 150 kW (70 K to
> 500 K BTU/hr) provide far more thermal power than is needed for
> institutional cooking and far less than most applications of the heat for
> small industry and space-heating of buildings. Currently functional devices
> and applications are explained and discussed with quantitative data. These
> include: TLUD heat for Paramont Dairy in Uganda; TLUD drying of cacao beans
> in the SeaChar project in Costa Rica; AVUD (continuous automated operation)
> heat and biochar production for a municipal bio-digestor and for factory
> space-heating by Chip Energy in the USA, and barrel-size biochar production
> (without use of the heat) by several initiatives, including the Jolly Roger
> Oven, the Re:Char project in Kenya, "in-field" biochar-barrel system by
> Anderson, and efforts by UB International in Mongolia and elsewhere.
>
> ********************************
> Notes:
>
> 1. Anderson will be working with Art Donnelly in Costa Rica in the middle
> half of this month, so the results presented will be as up to date as
> possible.
>
> 2. This presentation is intended to be one of several by different people
> at ETHOS about TLUD micro-gasification. Known or suspected presentations
> include (These are NOT in order, and we hope that they will NOT be in
> concurrent sessions,)
>
> A. Marc Pare, on micro-gasification advances using rice husks as fuel in
> TLUDs.
>
> B. Christa Roth, on GIZ advances with charcoal stoves, including the
> TChar technology. (if unfamiliar with "TChar", please see
> www.drtlud.com )
>
> C. Paul Anderson, the CHAB devices (see abstract at start of this message).
>
> D. Robert Fairchild, (title not known, but he works with TLUD and TChar
> devices for project in Haiti, and brings an engineering perspective to the
> topic.)
>
> E. Kathy Nafie, President of the Biomass Energy Foundation, presenting
> about outreach activities in North America and overseas by the BEF relating
> to micro-gasification.
>
> F. Presenter unknown, but work by Aprovecho on TLUD / micro-gasification
> will probably be presented (we hope).
>
> G. Does Jim Jetter or someone else involved with stove testing have a
> summary of emissions data from micro-gasifiers? (we hope so.)
>
> H. OTHERS: I do not want to leave anyone out, but I do not know of all of
> the efforts with micro-gasification, and / or if they will be attending.
> There are now numerous projects and efforts around the world (including
> Wendelbo / Formo in Zambia).
>
> And because all of the TLUD stoves and devices can be use to make biochar,
> these also relate to the topic of this email. I would like to hear (via a
> direct message) from anyone with a TLUD-type topic for presentation, even if
> you are not going to attend ETHOS.
>
> NOTE: The deadline for abstracts to ETHOS is TODAY 1 January 2012.
> In past years there have been some extentions of time, but that is up to
> Angie and Mark of ETHOS. Contact them immediately if considering sending in
> an abstract.
>
> Plus:
> The Saturday evening presentation (sometimes called a "Keynote"
> presentation) this year will be on
>
> "The Present and Future of Micro-gasification for Cookstoves:
> Expectations for Achieving the 2020 Goals of the Global Alliance for Clean
> Cookstoves."
>
> I will be making that presentation, and I assure you that it will NOT be
> what you have heard before nor even in the numerous presentations listed
> above.
>
> I am suggesting that the ETHOS administration allow this to be a "public
> lecture" open to everyone, not just to the those who register for the ETHOS
> conference. If that is allowed, we can attract a larger audience to our
> ETHOS objectives. Perhaps our host University and other organizations such
> as SeaChar and BEF could help publicize the presentation.
>
> **********************
>
> Paul
> --
> Paul S. Anderson, PhD
> Known to some as: Dr. TLUD Doc Professor
> Phone (USA): 309-452-7072 SKYPE: paultlud Email: psanders at ilstu.edu
> www.gtz.de/de/dokumente/giz2011-en-micro-gasification.pdf (Best ref.)
>
>
> Quoting "Bryden, Kenneth [M E]" <kmbryden at iastate.edu>:
>
> > Sounds like a great idea. This is an important discussion or community
> > needs to have. Any suggestions or volunteers? Ron? Anyone from
> > SeaChar?
> >
> >
> > On Dec 30, 2011, at 8:22 PM, Tom Miles wrote:
> >
> > Who wants to lead a biochar stove discussion at ETHOS? I think the
> > emphasis should be on field experiences with the use of char in
> > developing countries more than on stoves that make char.
> >
> > Tom Miles
> > _______________________________________________
>
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