[Stoves] Stoves Digest, Vol 22, Issue 10
Joshua Guinto
jed.building.bridges at gmail.com
Wed Jun 13 23:58:07 CDT 2012
Yes, indeed, the briquettes produce a lot of ash. For the single barrel
model, Rok Oblak designed to have a hole on the side of the burner. You can
scrape off the ash on the side while cooking. I found that old hacksaw
blade, the one used for cutting iron, suits welll for this, provided that
you grind off the remaining teeth in the saw blade.
In my case, i decided to create a second barrel underneath the main fuel
shelf. This allows scraping of the ash towards you, not side ways. the
second barrel also serves as a porthole for additional incoming hot air
thus, boosting the flame further.
I will do some sketches as soon as i have more time.
Jed
2012/6/12 ssemaganda Robert <ssemarobert at yahoo.com>
> Thanks for the nice stoves on this web site
> http://holeyroket.wordpress.com/2011/06/ but I would want to know how is
> one able to remove the ash that keeps accumulating b'se one thing I know
> with briquettes is that they produce alot of ash. I think you will agree
> with me in that!
> let me hear from you stovers
> Robert
>
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> 1. Fwd: on pre heating of biomass alongside the stove for near
> instant ignition and if desired, smokeless emission of desired
> aromatics (Richard Stanley)
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> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 12:17:56 -0700
> From: Richard Stanley <rstanley at legacyfound.org>
> To: Stoves and biofuels network <Stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org>
> Subject: [Stoves] Fwd: on pre heating of biomass alongside the stove
> for near instant ignition and if desired, smokeless emission of
> desired aromatics
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>
> Seconded, Paul (thanks for that).
> ...from Here to Etorroficany it is:
>
> The briquettes at least seldom get so hot that you can't pick them up
> in your hands for a few seconds, or at least long enough to toss them =
> into the stove without burning yourself. Now when you figure out a way =
> to add in eucalyptus leaves to drive off mossis with smokeless aromatic =
> emissions out of wood (maybe you can do this with the raw wood source =
> but I have not seen it happen on our own stove here at home: It seems =
> the aromoatics are more easily emitted from the non wood faction of the =
> biomass). =20
>
> For anybody interested, please take a look at Rok Oblak's site: He =
> pioneered the integration of molded-in fingers to his side fed briquette =
> rocket stoves. The design is being used in several countries now. These =
> and the story behind them is archived these on this site: =
> http://holeyroket.wordpress.com/2011/06/
>
> Richard Stanley
> www.legacyfound.org
>
>
>
> On Jun 6, 2012, at 7:04 AM, Paul Anderson wrote:
>
> Stovers,
>
> I edited Richard Stanley's message below to focus on fuel drying. I =
> think the idea is great!!!
>
> And it can be expanded to be small wire baskets that can hang on the =
> sides or other means to keep the fuel close to the warm sides of the =
> stoves. =20
>
> Many of the current configurations of TLUD stoves could adopt this =
> drying method very easily. =20
>
> Alternatively for easily portable heat sources like many TLUDs, the fuel =
> for drying could be in a "cage" or rack of some type into which the TLUD =
> unit is placed, and then removed as in normal TLUD usage.
>
> SAFETY NOTE: Fires should not be unattended, and fires near fuels that =
> are being dried present even greater risks. But this is because of =
> wayward sparks. In the absence of sparks, however, merely drying the =
> fuels should not cause spontaneous combustion. Instead, the biomass =
> might start to reach some torrification (like the over-browning of a =
> piece of toast), which is not combustion.
>
> Stovers should consider ways to dry fuels using "waste" ambient heat =
> near the stoves.
>
> Paul
> Paul S. Anderson, PhD aka "Dr TLUD"
> Email: psanders at ilstu.edu Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072
> Website: www.drtlud.com
>
> On 6/5/2012 2:21 PM, Richard Stanley wrote:
> > =20
> > George,
> > ... snip ...
> > You could even add a small fingers to hold briquettes alongside to =
> super dry them for two benefits: near instant and near smokeless =
> ignition, and emission of desired aromas (eg., eucalyptus leaf blends =
> for flea /mozzie repellents, and lemon grass, cedar etc., etc., as used =
> tradtionally for medicinal / cerimonial purposes---without smoke). You =
> could, alternatively ... [use]... sheet metal riveted or fastened by =
> simple slots in stove wall with matching bent tangs in the plate.=20
> > =20
> > Heres a simple 3D sketch of the idea; am only guessing at stove shape =
> and configuration=20
>
> [DrTLUD says: I was not able to attach Richard's diagram. Imagine a =
> peg sticking out from the side of a TLUD stove, with a holey briquette =
> on that peg. Or you can see it in his original message to the Stoves =
> List. and it should be in the Archives of the Stoves Listserv. ]
> > =20
> > Richard Stanley
> > www.legacfound.org
> > =20
> > =20
> > =20
> > =20
>
>
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> <html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
> -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; =
> ">Seconded, Paul (thanks for that). <div>...from Here to =
> Etorroficany it is:</div><div><br></div><div> The briquettes at =
> least seldom get so hot that you can't pick them up in your hands for a =
> few seconds, or at least long enough to toss them into the stove without =
> burning yourself. Now when you figure out a way to add in =
> eucalyptus leaves to drive off mossis with smokeless aromatic emissions =
> out of wood (maybe you can do this with the raw wood source but I have =
> not seen it happen on our own stove here at home: It seems the =
> aromoatics are more easily emitted from the non wood faction of the =
> biomass). </div><div><br></div><div>For anybody interested, please =
> take a look at Rok Oblak's site: He pioneered the integration of =
> molded-in fingers to his side fed briquette rocket stoves. The design is =
> being used in several countries now. These and the story behind them is =
> archived these on this site: <a =
> href=3D"http://holeyroket.wordpress.com/2011/06/">
> http://holeyroket.wordpr=
> ess.com/2011/06/</a></div><div><br></div><div>Richard =
> Stanley</div><div><a =
> href=3D"http://www.legacyfound.org">www.legacyfound.org
> </a></div><div><br>=
> </div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Jun 6, 2012, at 7:04 AM, Paul =
> Anderson wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline">
> =20
> <meta content=3D"text/html; charset=3DISO-8859-1" =
> http-equiv=3D"Content-Type">
> =20
> <div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000">
> Stovers,<br>
> <br>
> I edited Richard Stanley's message below to focus on fuel =
> drying.
> I think the idea is great!!!<br>
> <br>
> And it can be expanded to be small wire baskets that can hang on the
> sides or other means to keep the fuel close to the warm sides of the
> stoves. <br>
> <br>
> Many of the current configurations of TLUD stoves could adopt this
> drying method very easily. <br>
> <br>
> Alternatively for easily portable heat sources like many TLUDs, the
> fuel for drying could be in a "cage" or rack of some type into which
> the TLUD unit is placed, and then removed as in normal TLUD =
> usage.<br>
> <br>
> SAFETY NOTE: Fires should not be unattended, and fires near =
> fuels
> that are being dried present even greater risks. But =
> this is
> because of wayward sparks. In the absence of sparks, =
> however,
> merely drying the fuels should not cause spontaneous =
> combustion.
> Instead, the biomass might start to reach some torrification (like
> the over-browning of a piece of toast), which is not combustion.<br>
> <br>
> Stovers should consider ways to dry fuels using "waste" ambient heat
> near the stoves.<br>
> <br>
> Paul<br>
> <pre class=3D"moz-signature" cols=3D"72">Paul S. Anderson, PhD aka =
> "Dr TLUD"
> Email: <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" =
> href=3D"mailto:psanders at ilstu.edu">psanders at ilstu.edu</a> Skype: =
> paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072
> Website: <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" =
> href=3D"http://www.drtlud.com/">www.drtlud.com</a></pre>
> <br>
> On 6/5/2012 2:21 PM, Richard Stanley wrote:
> <blockquote =
> cite=3D"mid:E9CEC228-B197-47EA-8D0E-BC0CF731FF8F at legacyfound.org" =
> type=3D"cite"><base href=3D"x-msg://133/">George,
> <div> ... snip ...</div>
> </blockquote>
> <blockquote =
> cite=3D"mid:E9CEC228-B197-47EA-8D0E-BC0CF731FF8F at legacyfound.org" =
> type=3D"cite">
> <div> You could even add a small fingers to hold briquettes
> alongside to super dry them for two benefits: near instant =
> and
> near smokeless ignition, and emission of desired aromas =
> (eg.,
> eucalyptus leaf blends for flea /mozzie repellents, and =
> lemon
> grass, cedar etc., etc., as used tradtionally for medicinal /
> cerimonial purposes---without smoke). You could, alternatively
> ... [use]... sheet metal riveted or fastened by simple =
> slots in
> stove wall with matching bent tangs in the plate.
> <div><br>
> </div>
> <div>Heres a simple 3D sketch of the idea; am only =
> guessing at
> stove shape and configuration <br>
> </div>
> </div>
> </blockquote>
> <br>
> [DrTLUD says: I was not able to attach Richard's =
> diagram. Imagine
> a peg sticking out from the side of a TLUD stove, with a holey
> briquette on that peg. Or you can see it in his original =
> message to
> the Stoves List. and it should be in the Archives of the Stoves
> Listserv. ]<br>
> <blockquote =
> cite=3D"mid:E9CEC228-B197-47EA-8D0E-BC0CF731FF8F at legacyfound.org" =
> type=3D"cite">
> <div>
> <div> <br>
> </div>
> <div>Richard Stanley</div>
> <div><a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" =
> href=3D"http://www.legacfound.org/">www.legacfound.org</a></div>
> <div><br>
> </div>
> <div><br>
> </div>
> <div><br>
> </div>
> <div>
> </div>
> </div>
> </blockquote>
> </div>
>
> </div><br></div></body></html>=
>
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