[Stoves] Smoke-free biomass pellet fueled stove

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Sun Nov 4 08:08:39 CST 2012


Paul, something similar I´ve desingned about 2 years ago, my problem is that I don´t have to much money for invetigation I have a model at the factory and on prototipe allready workin as you can see in the pictures.


 

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 From: Paul Anderson <psanders at ilstu.edu>
To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves <stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org> 
Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2012 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Stoves] Smoke-free biomass pellet fueled stove
  

Dear Ronal and Prof. Nurhuda,

I too await the answers to Ron's questions.   And add a comment
      about what Ron wrote:

you appear to be pre-heating both primary and secondary air - can you attribute any performance improvement to that?  (I know of no-one else doing both)
I cannot think of anyone preheating primary air in a TLUD to any significant degree.  That is because there is no serious heat in the lower areas of TLUDs until the pyrolysis front makes it at least half way down the column of fuel.  And then the heat is by conduction through the metal sidewalls.   

Looking at the video by Nurhuda, I do not detect any effort to
      pre-heat the primary air.   He can clarify that for us.   What is
      important is the quality of the control of the amount of primary
      air that can enter.   VERY  WELL DONE.   His stove should be a
      case study of industrial manufacturing of natural draft TLUDs.

I request from Prof. Nurhuda as much additional information as
      possible.   The more that everyone and the GACC knows about the
      Indonesia TLUD success story, the more opportunities there will be
      for the further scaling up to serve people in Indonesia and
      elsewhere.

Paul

Paul S. Anderson, PhD  aka "Dr TLUD"
Email: psanders at ilstu.edu Skype: paultlud  Phone: +1-309-452-7072
Website: http://www.drtlud.com/
On 11/3/2012 11:47 AM, rongretlarson at comcast.net wrote:
 
 
>Prof.  Nurhuda
>
>    This is a really fine looking stove.  The part that
        intrigues me most is that you are controlling secondary air for
        the pyrolysis gases.  And apparently doing it (and primary air)
        well with the rotating disc mechanism.  I do not recall seeing
        any other stove controlling both (without a fan) - so any data
        on the value of that for users of the stove could be very
        helpful to others.  (Can they control excess air by the look of
        the flame?)
>
>    A few questions:
>
>      the price?
>     sales going well?
>     what percentage char by weight?
>     any soil improvement results from using the biochar?
>     can you do more than a 4:3 turndown ratio?  (based on your
        two stated power levels)
>     apparently you are striving for biochar  (great!), but can
        you describe conditions if you try to burn the produced char?
>     any efficiency data?
>     you appear to be pre-heating both primary and secondary air
        - can you attribute any performance improvement to that?  (I
        know of no-one else doing both)
>
>Thanks for the alert on your stove.
>
>Ron
>
>
>________________________________
>From: mnurhuda at ub.ac.id
>To: stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org
>Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2012 5:03:54 PM
>Subject: [Stoves] Smoke-free biomass pellet fueled stove
>
>Dear all,
>
>Please check to following page to see the video of our
        smoke-free,
>biomass-pellet fueled stove:
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWt25oD1iWk&feature=youtu.be
>
>Kind regards
>M. Nurhuda
>
>
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