[Stoves] Climate Panel Cites Near Certainty on Warming

Paul Olivier paul.olivier at esrla.com
Thu Aug 22 15:33:58 CDT 2013


Jock,

So good to see you speak up.
You expressed things so eloquently.
Good job!

Paul Olivier


On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 9:19 PM, Jock Gill <jg45 at icloud.com> wrote:

> Paul,
>
> The interesting question is why do people feel obliged to deny the science
> of Climate Security / Insecurity?  Politics and "culture wars" play a huge
> part.  For example, if global climate disruption is a real threat, then
> governments will have an extremely important role in solving the problem.
>  To some, it is unacceptable for government to play any role in any
> solution.  For these people government has to be the problem and can never
> be allowed to be part of a solution.  Government must always be seen to be
> failing.  Hence the objections, for example, to government health Plans,
> even though we know from other countries they can work at lower costs with
> better results.
>
> On the political front, also consider the interesting role of the American
> "Dixiecrats" who were fundamentally opposed to government imposed civil
> liberties.  The descendants of the Dixiecrats are alive and well in
> Washington, DC and far too many state capitals.  The recent hard turn to
> the right in formally moderate North Carolina is a case in point.
>
> In short, people do not like to see their entrenched core values
> threatened with significant change.  The fossil fuel companies do not want
> to be told they cannot monetize 100% of their reserves.  Yet, if we want to
> mitigate Climate Insecurity,  we probably have to find ways to leave as
> much fossil carbon in the ground as we can.  Monetizing it all creates too
> great a risk of globsl climate disruption. This, however, is unacceptable
> to the likes of the Exxon and the Koch brothers etc.  They will fight it
> tooth and nail. As they have effectively "bought and paid for" far too many
> elected officials, I expect they will prevail for some time to come.  It
> will be hard to convert from an extraction model to a stewardship model.
>
> So, until we have policy, incentives and education promoting Climate
> Security, I expect very little to be done to creatively address the
> daunting challenges to Climate Security that we are facing.  As a result, I
> am not sanguine about the future my grandchildren will inherit from us.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jock
>
> Jock Gill
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>
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>
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> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Aug 22, 2013, at 8:05 AM, Paul Olivier <paul.olivier at esrla.com> wrote:
>
> Ron and Josh,
>
> Take heart. An article appeared today in the New York Times entitled
> "Welcome to the Age of Denial." The author, Adam Frank, puts things in
> perspective quite nicely:
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/22/opinion/welcome-to-the-age-of-denial.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20130822
> Frank is a professor of physics and astronomy at the University of
> Rochester. The language that he uses is not the language of religion or
> politics. It's the language of science, and yet it is, at times, tough and
> brutal. Let me quote just a few lines:
>
> *Meanwhile, climate deniers, taking pages from the creationists’ PR
> playbook, have manufactured doubt about fundamental issues in climate
> science that were decided scientifically decades ago.*..
>
> *North Carolina has banned state planners from using climate data in
> their projections of future sea levels...
>
> From one end of their educational trajectory to the other, our society
> told these kids science was important. How confusing is it for them now,
> when scientists receive death threats for simply doing honest research on
> our planet’s climate history? *
>
> I encourage everyone to read the entire article. Let no one try to take
> the high road and say that climate issues should not influence the way we
> design stoves.
>
> Thanks.
> Paul
>
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