[Stoves] Final (?) report on stove camp

Tom Miles tmiles at trmiles.com
Sat Jul 27 21:26:45 CDT 2013


Ron,

 

Thanks for bringing us all into Stove Camp with your reporting. Much appreciated.

 

Tom

 

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List:

  This is to give a few more final sentences on the running of the camp. "Everyone" doing tests or preparing for ones by modifying existing stoves when I got there at 8:00 for an official start at 9:00. (Earlier, I drove to the other part of Aprovecho - permaculture - about 6 miles away.)   Probably a few had worked both late the previous night (and other nights) and had also started earlier than 8:00 AM..  A little later than normal, the AM meeting featured Dean giving design tips  (TARP-V earlier  [I need help - I can't find my notes on that acronym]) and this time "MAMMA" (Mixing, Architecture, Metering, Moisture, Air).  Also numerous slides on the production in China of the StoveTec product.

   Many people then were cooking for a big final luncheon.  Especially Rebecca on a chicken curry  in a huge pot atop one of the two clay stoves she had brought  (her main change was dropping the pot support heights to improve convective heat transfer).  Larry W. was roasting chicken in a horizontal closed 55 gallon drum atop a rocket.    Many salads appeared

   I watched the testing of an interesting stove designed by Kirk Harris (from La Rosa (?) CA.  This was much larger version of a camping stove he brought.  Good results on abbreviated testing. I'll write a separate report on this design as it had several features I have not seen elsewhere.

  Had intersting talks with the other two (besides Rebecca) from outside the US.  Both named "Omar" - from Senegal and Burkina Faso.  Both very knowledgeable - and here looking for improved designs for their own countries.

   Last event of the day -  hearing of the latest results and then a chance to vote on two $500 prizes.    Leaders on the TLUD side seemed to be Paul Anderson's and Art Donnelly's - but people could vote for any stove.  Due to air schedules,  I missed the final vote tally.    I  hope someone can report all results.

   Final wrap-up comment:
     .  The camp was very well run  (its eleventh?).  The price of $300 is a bargain if you have a design and know nothing about its emissions.  But for serious stove researchers the lab is also open for free (!) testing..    Lots of expertise here and very friendly support staff  (free coffee and donuts all day - and numerous chances to interact with others informally.    I have two brand new design ideas myself to try out.

   Questions and thoughts?

Ron

   This report a little rushed.  Hope others will chime in - especially with the voting results.

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