[Stoves] Fwd: from K Smith [stove] Smoked out: Coal and health

[Paul Anderson]

Tom,

I like both of your suggestions.

Kirk, please be sure that #1 is implemented.

Thanks,

Paul

Paul S. Anderson, PhD  aka "Dr TLUD"
Email:  psanders at ilstu.edu   Skype: paultlud  Phone: +1-309-452-7072
Website:  www.drtlud.com

On 6/8/2013 10:11 AM, Tom Miles wrote:
>
> Thanks Paul
>
> Health issues clearly are of interest.
>
> Not everyone in the stoves community will want to receive regular 
> information about health. I suggest two mechanisms:
>
> 1.Kirk can subscribe us (tmiles at trmiles.com 
> <mailto:tmiles at trmiles.com>) and we can repost information of interest 
> to the Stoves list.
>
> 2.If there is a signup URL we can post it on the stoves list and link 
> from the stoves website to Kirk's list or archives.
>
> Regards,
>
> Tom
>
> *From:*Stoves [mailto:stoves-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] *On 
> Behalf Of *Paul Anderson
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 08, 2013 6:51 AM
> *To:* Discussion of biomass cooking stoves; Kirk Smith; Jay Smith; 
> Hugh McLaughlin
> *Subject:* [Stoves] Fwd: from K Smith [stove] Smoked out: Coal and health
>
> Stovers,
>
> I have recently started to receive Kirk Smith's messages in his 
> personal [stove] listserv.   Note that it is different from the 
> [Stoves] listserv (capital S and plural s).  I wonder what messages I 
> (and others) have missed in the past.   Of course, his focus is on 
> health issues, which have not been sufficiently addressed in the 
> Stoves Listserv.   Krik, is there an Archive of your previous messages?
>
> And who else is on BOTH the [stove] and [Stoves] listserv?
>
> (to Tom M. and Erin, how can we address this needed linkage? I think 
> that Dr. Smith is appropriately focused on "health + stoves" and does 
> not need the full "everything + stoves" that is on the Stoves 
> Listserv.   It is we Stovers who what his "health" element added into 
> our "everything" medley. )
>
> I am forwarding Smith's message because it is certainly of interest to 
> us Stovers.   And I add these comments:
>
> 1.  The item correctly names coal burning stoves as a problem.   But I 
> will anticipate Crispin's rely by saying that I agree with Crispin 
> that there are not bad fuels, just bad stoves.   And that the 
> breakthroughs about improved coal burning stoves are just starting to 
> become known and they need further research.
>
> 2.  Remember, there are many different types of coal, so look for 
> successful clean burning for a specific stove with a specific type of 
> coal, and celebrate and advocate that success, rather than dwell upon 
> the NON-successes of other stoves with other types of coal.
>
> 3.  The GACC needs to embrace the coal stoves as well as the biomass 
> stoves and the stoves that use "other" fuels like biogas, LPG, etc.
>
> 4.  Crispin has experience with coal burning stoves in Mongolia.   
> Some are TLUDs.   Claims are that some are quite clean burning.   
> GETTING THIS INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO ALL OF US SHOULD BE ONE OF THE 
> PRIMARY OBJECTIVES OF THE GACC AND ACESS.  GACC claims to be "stove 
> neutral".   But it is not "stove agnostic".   Time for us all the be 
> more knowledgeable about coal-burning stoves, and the GACC and ACESS 
> represent us and have access to funding.
>
> Enjoy Kirk's book review.
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> Paul S. Anderson, PhD  aka "Dr TLUD"
> Email:psanders at ilstu.edu  <mailto:psanders at ilstu.edu>    Skype: paultlud  Phone: +1-309-452-7072
> Website:www.drtlud.com  <http://www.drtlud.com>
>
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
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> [stove] Smoked out: Coal and health
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> Fri, 07 Jun 2013 12:03:10 -0700
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> *From: *
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> Kirk R. Smith <krksmith at berkeley.edu> <mailto:krksmith at berkeley.edu>
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> Kirk R. Smith <Krksmith at berkeley.edu> <mailto:Krksmith at berkeley.edu>
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> Part of a special issue of Lancet on China's health, June 8, 2013.  
> Note my emphasis on the household pollution from coal, which was 
> missed by the book I reviewed/k
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