[Stoves] Hydrogen from charcoal

Crispin Pemberton-Pigott crispinpigott at gmail.com
Mon Sep 9 13:52:05 CDT 2013


Dear Frans

 

Those are very interesting considerations for emissions testers.

 

There are four sources of Hydrogen then: water in the ambient air, fuel
moisture, hydrogen in the fuel and moisture in the stove body if it is made
from a ceramic material.

 

I am discounting the possibility that there is much hydrogen in the ambient
air.

 

In case anyone would like to see the raw data it is pasted below your reply.
The high H2(EF) is not the result of an unusually high lambda value
multiplied by a tiny hydrogen concentration. There is quite a lot present
even at a significant dilution.

 

I see no other mechanism for this level – water gas shift reaction. It is
taking place at quite ordinary temperatures in relatively small fires (a few
kW).  This may encourage some gasifier builders to consider ways to create
better quality gas.

 

So, why is the ratio to CO almost constant in most tests? The correlation
coefficient between the CO and H2 is 97.7%. Given some room for instrument
error, that is pretty darn close to unity.

 

Regards

Crispin

 

 

Dear Crispin,

 

Dont forget: at 900 °C H2O +C------> H2 +CO Your plot is missing
themperature !

Mind hydrogen is dens 2 versus  28 for CO becouse every mol gas  =22,4 L .

So H2 escapes 14 times faster by Archimedes ....

If you measure in a horizontal stoofpipe! Up and down is different !!!

CO is not only the bad stove but the production from water in watergas .

The smoke must be returned into a glowing fuelmass . Fluidized sand  bed or
Karnetsoff system .

Hydrogen is free of no cost here ,so nobody has interesse to measure it .

 

 

Regards

Frans

 

++++++++++++

Raw data, H2, test SeTAR_539, charcoal

 


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