[Stoves] TESTING - COOKING POWER ; WOOD versus EL.STEAMING

[Jock Gill]

Rebecca,

The great advantage of a good TLUD is that you can be cooking over real wood as it converts to biochar.  In North America I use wood pellets.  In other place wood inappropriate for any other use could be used as feedstock for the TLUD.

Food cooked in a Pyro-Grill tastes ever so much better than food cooked over any form of charcoal.  Light wood flavor but not "smokey".  Slow cooing at lower temperatures is the way to go.  Not that I can not "burn" what I cook, I just have to be careless to do it.

Cheers,

Jock

Jock Gill
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> On Feb 28, 2014, at 2:20 AM, "ravermeer at telus.net" <keesvermeer at telus.net> wrote:
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> Dear Frans,
> Even with the great deals on eBay, the Electro Steam Cooker is not affordable in poor communities in the Philippines where 3-stones and 2-hollow blocks with rebar are the dominant stoves in use.  Even If you donate these cookers to the poor, they will  not use them.  Instead they will sell these cookers to buy rice.  Just remember, $57 US is Php 2,600 pesos - a month's wages for a regular working labourer.  In the coastal villages the Eco-Kalan Project have visited recently, Php 2,600 pesos is too much money for the fishermen who go for weeks without fishing during the typhoon season.
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> Moreover, the meals one can prepare with an Electro Steam Cooker is limited and mediocre in comparison to what even poor Filipinos cook over 3-stones.  Anyone who has cooked with wood will tell you how much better the food tastes than food cooked using gas or electricity.
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> Loves cooking with wood,
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> Rebecca 
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> Shop for electro steam cooking on Google:
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> Hamilton Beach Digital 2-tier Food Steamer Meat Fish Vegetable Electric Cooker
> $57.00 - 
> eBay
> Great deals on eBay!
> 
> TIGER 5.5 Cup Electric ...
> $77.23
> Walmart.ca
> TIGER 5.5 Cup Electric Rice Cooker/Steamer
> $77.23 - 
> Walmart.ca
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> Tiger 10 Cup Electric Rice ...
> $88.23
> Walmart.ca
> Tiger 10 Cup Electric Rice Cooker/Steamer
> $88.23 - 
> Walmart.ca
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Frans Peeters" <peetersfrans at telenet.be>
> To: "Crispin Pemberton-Pigott" <crispinpigott at gmail.com>, "Martin Boll Dr" <Boll.bn at t-online.de>, "Frank Shields" <frank at compostlab.com>, "Anand Karve" <adkarve at gmail.com>
> Cc: ravermeer at telus.net
> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 3:15:04 AM
> Subject: COOKING POWER ; WOOD versus EL.STEAMING
> 
> Dears,
> 
>  Your cooking power for wood is 25,5 Mj = 7KWh  for  500g rice  
> 1Kg WOOD=4KWh  3BFr /Kg=0,05 $ Kg
> 7KWh wood-price =O,0875 $ = 5,25 BFr=O,13 €     for 2 meals ? 
> Or 0,044 $ / meal-power=O,065 €
> 
>  Electro steam -cooking takes 700 watts for 30 minuts=0,350 KWh =1,26 MJ 
> SO 2O TIMES LESS !
> Food space 9L .Food Load 1Kg. Water volume 0,8 L ;gives 2 meals for 3 BFr or O,O5 $ /meal power!=O,O75 €
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> SO HIGH TIME TO CONSTRUCT STEAM POTS !
> ALUMINIUM gives you ALZHEIMER ...
> And then you never find out how to cook ....
> 
> Yours
> Frans
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> TESTING !
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> Aan: DISCUSSION OF BIOMASS COOKING STOVES
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> <http://tungkuindonesia.org/images/downloads/CSI_Indonesia_Test_Methods_2014-1-14_v7.pdf>  and might suit your needs in the long term. There is also a SeTAR Thermal Efficiency Test (TET 1.55) which is used to assess the hot stove, high power heat transfer efficiency. It is a reasonable predictor of fuel consumption provided the charcoal remaining is handled correctly. It will also give you the HFR and the cooking power.
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> Eco-Kalan Project 
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