[Stoves] scoping out a practical solid fuel stove igniter - fire piston

[Crispin Pemberton-Pigott]

Dear James

This device pops up from time to time and is a survivalists delight. There are lots of YouTube videos on making them.

Is the question before us creating the replacement for the match or determining how it should be applied to the starting of the fire, meaning getting the wood going? Both are valuable.

Having looked at matches and BIC lighters I came to the conclusion a BIC was a pretty good deal on a cost per ignition basis. Virtually all of it can be recycled too. But maybe the forest dwelling hermit needs something else.

A bamboo pressure igniter is really cool!
Regards
Crispin
Thanks a lot for that James,

With the fire starter , and its plunger/ piston dimensions (<-5' length x ~½" O of cylinder with a ¼" ID for piston) and the sheer fact of its precedent in history of use both in the UK and   the developing nations, it  would seem perfect as a stove starter….Poor mans bomb calorimeter  eh ?

This has hte potential of greater convenience and in that they have been made ut of wood babboo etc etc over the eons, sugegsts somethign to upgrade slightly and we are theoretically there..
viz;
You drop in pea sized char tinder, or it rolls in thru a side port in cylinder , punge down the  down pressure closes a bottom one way flap or poppet valve, makign the chamber air tight ..The tinder ignites then as you withdrawy the piston the negative pressure int eh cylinder liftts open the valve in the cylinder bottom and the ignited tinder drops directly down onto the fuel bed ….Its got to be that convenient to  compete with a match or a bic lighter…

Richard

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On Jul 10, 2014, at 11:34 AM, James F. Hensel wrote:

Here is a low-tech lighter. http://www.onagocag.com/piston.html It requires char cloth, but should be inexpensive and durable.

You could incorporate this into the stove design so the plunger was easy to hold.

Jim Hensel
Portland, Oregon
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