[Stoves] Prakti two-burner stove features in article on "protecting the poor from climate change policies"

Dean Still deankstill at gmail.com
Sat Sep 27 10:06:12 CDT 2014


Hi Crispin,

I do not see how linking together your two outlier beliefs that stove
testing is wrong and climate change is wrong strengthens either case. The
great majority of scientists involved in both fields disagree with you.

Dean

On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 2:38 AM, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott <
crispinpigott at outlook.com> wrote:

>> http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/09/26/protect-the-poor-from-climate-change-policies/
>
> Dear Friends
>
> Domestic stoves are receiving more and more attention ‎with the contrast
> between the lives of the rich energy consuming nations and the poor living
> in a cloud of smoke getting more and more attention. Article are appearing
> with increasing frequency in Nature, Science and heath publications. The
> piece above directly challenges the story line that the poor should, in
> service to the greater good of mankind, continue to suffer in backwardness
> in order to save us all from thermageddon. The plight of stove users and
> breathers of smoke is starting to emerge as a PR talking point.
>
> Taking the standpoint of Samer Abdelnour which asks overarching questions
> about links and common associations, one can ask if improved stoves such as
> the one selected for the headline are actually substitutes for real energy
> democracy, with complex questions of access being 'technolgised' and
> reduced to providing a compensating $35 stove. Poor countries are now being
> actively defunded for new energy supplies as stove programmes are ramped
> up. Is this the trade off? Breathe less smoke is the dark - thanks.
>
> Personally I don't think so - it is an accidental correlation. It falls to
> the stove promoting community to ensure that no backlash against omnibus
> climate control policies negatively impact the progress we have created in
> this sector.
>
> If the wonky science and even anti-science that pervades the climate
> alarmist narrative were to be detected in stove testing and promoting
> community the inevitable backlash will take down the stove programmes
> (including the CDM funding).
>
> The moment is therefore opportune to sweep the stage clean at the
> Guatemala ISO meeting and ditch the albatross that has weighed down the
> improved stove sector - tests with questionable math, poorly defined terms
> and even some invalid metrics. We are capable of doing much better and now
> is the time to prove it.
>
> If the stove community cannot even abide by the basic requirements to have
> our test methods peer reviewed, our formula changes tracked, our
> definitions standardised, our metrics validated, we become a vulnerable
> pawn in much greater conflicts about how the poor should be raised from
> they current conditions, including energy poverty. I invite you all to read
> my lecture presented on the 26th at Clarkson University entitled "Blowing
> smoke - the curious case of the mangled metric" which explores the
> conceptual error of applying a valid metric to a thermodynamic situation
> different from the one for which it was devised - and the negative
> consequences of doing so. I will make it available in a couple of days.
>
> In short, if the real scientists among us do not start taking a stand in
> favour of the use of valid stove performance evaluation methods, and soon,
> the whole improved stove edifice is going up in flames. There are
> opportunists and careerists on every side. We must NOT be caught with our
> mathematical drawers around our ankles. ‎At the moment we stand exposed.
>
> Sincerely
> Crispin
>
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