[Stoves] Rebecca Vermeer sent you a video: "Launching Eco-Kalan & Bingka Oven for SUMAPI Dumandan, Zamboanguita, Negros Or., PH, Dec 14-15, 2014"

Ronal W. Larson rongretlarson at comcast.net
Wed Apr 1 13:18:55 CDT 2015


Paul, Rebecca, etal

	Note -  the TLUD portion of this was about 10 seconds beginning at 6:20.  Seemed to be two pieces to the TLUD.

	Added questions:  Use of charcoal was favored as cooking with wood was smoky and gave an unfavorable taste.  Could Rebecca say something on flavor when cooking with a TLUD.

	Apparently a favorite charcoal was coconut shell.  Could she make that same charcoal in her TLUD?

	The time available for cooking with her TLUD?  The weight or volume of the input fuel and same for the output char?

	I seemed to see two sets of vertical holes.  I’d like to hear what happens with use of only the lower set.  Also what happens when there is a device to create swirl (getting hopefully more complete combustion).  Swirl mechanisms available from Kirk Harris.

	Any means of controlling the primary (bottom) air?

	Agreed that the video was well done and the food looked very appetizing.  Agreed that making a durable piece of ceramic this large ain’t easy.  There are some skilled potters in this part of the Philippines.

Ron


On Apr 1, 2015, at 7:48 AM, Paul Anderson <psanders at ilstu.edu> wrote:

> To all Stovers,
> 
> I highly recommend that you watch Rebecca's video (10 minutes).   It is:
> 1.  Very well made, fast paced, with nice music, and very informative.
> 
> 2.  CAUTION:  It will make you hungry!!   Many views of delicious food that was prepared with the Eco-Kalan and Bingka Oven.  
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> 3.  Rebecca's introductory comments (printed below) in this message are not in the video, but will help you understand what is being shown.
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> 4.  I am also absolutely thrilled by the addition of TLUD heat sources under the Bingka Oven!!! The TLUDs are in two sizes, and are made of clay/ceramic!!  And they can be removed from under the Bingka Oven (as should be the case), so any appropriate sized TLUD could be inserted.  I request that Rebecca tell us more about the making of clay TLUDs and the issues of cracking/breaking,  how hot the sides became, and about the weight (because they need to be picked up and moved for refilling / replacement.   
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> 5.  There are some views at the beginning showing the making of the oven.   A VERY NICE PRODUCT!!!!   I am sure that Jon and Flip can relate to the work it takes to make ovens.   I hope Rebecca will direct us to more information specifically about making of the oven. 
> 
> To Rebecca, CONGRATULATIONS on your very evident success!!!!!!!!!!!
> 
> Paul 
> Doc  /  Dr TLUD  /  Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD  
> Email:  psanders at ilstu.edu   
> Skype: paultlud      Phone: +1-309-452-7072
> Website:  www.drtlud.com
> On 3/31/2015 10:45 PM, Rebecca A. Vermeer wrote:
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>> Subject: Rebecca Vermeer sent you a video: "Launching Eco-Kalan & Bingka Oven for SUMAPI Dumandan, Zamboanguita, Negros Or., PH, Dec 14-15, 2014" 
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>> Rebecca Vermeer has shared a video with you on YouTube
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>> Launching Eco-Kalan & Bingka Oven for SUMAPI Dumandan, Zamboanguita, Negros Or., PH, Dec 14-15, 2014
>> by Rebecca Vermeer
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>> AIMS of the Eco-Kalan Project
>> To Improve the Health, Environment and Economics of Poor Communities
>> 
>> March 30, 2015
>> 
>> Dear Friends,
>> In the current video, I share with you the exciting developments from the partnership between the Eco-Kalan Project with the Negros Oriental Visayan Forum, the 79th Infantry Battalion and the 302nd Infantry Brigade of the Philippine Army in a livelihood program based on the Eco-Kalan and the Bingka Oven.
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>> Since the Oct. 4, 2014 demonstration at Felipa Beach on Cooking with the Eco-Kalan and Baking with the Bingka Oven to members of SUMAPI Dumandan (http://youtu.be/RUYq7i1gQj4 ), we have learned and accomplished the following:
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>> On December 14 -15, 2014, the Eco-Kalan Project and its partners
>> - set up an Eco-Kalan-C kitchen with Bingka ovens fired with wood and coconut shell charcoal and a traditional oven fired by wood for comparison; and
>> - officially launch the Eco-Kalan & Bingka Oven as a livelihood program for SUMAPI Dumandan under the Visayan Forum's umbrella.
>> 
>> In reviewing the interviews with SUMAPI members, guests and attendees at the launching, I learned about the limitations in the supply of coconut shell charcoal; restrictions in the production and supply of wood charcoal; and the seemingly unavoidable smoke when using wood as fuel for the Bingka oven. Smoke during baking can tarnish the appearance and taste of the baked product making it unmarketable.. And yet, wood is most often the fuel of choice when coconut shell or wood charcoal are not available or when wood is free for the picking.
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>> I decided to make a clay stove which can function as a TLUD (gasifier) stove in phase 1 of the burn and as a charcoal stove in phase 2. That gave rise to the Whirly Pinay-S (2 kg wood capacity) and the Whirly Pinay-L (4 kg wood capacity) based on Kelpie Wilson's tin can Whirly Girl TLUD (Top Lit Upward Draft) stove. Our March 17, 2015 test runs with the large bingka oven using firewood in the improved Whirly Pinay (longer secondary air slits) produced clean, untarnished bingkas in all the 4 batches. 
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>> On February 27, 2015 Lakbay Aral (Educational Tour),
>> - the Eco-Kalan Project hosted the last of the school year's Lakbay Aral luncheon for 150 people. It was on this occasion that the Whirly Pinay-L was used to cook breakfast for over 30 people who prepared the luncheon. The coming Lakbay Aral video will include cooking the breakfast.
>> - the Eco-Kalan Project was requested to provide snack and water for everyone travelling back to Milagrosa, Sta. Catalina. I challenged the SUMAPI Dumandan and Visayan Forum's clients from Ayungon to bake 500 muffins using 4 Bingka ovens fired by wood in the Whirly-Pinay-S stove; coconut shell charcoal in a small and large Eco-Kalan stove; and by LPG in a gas burner. They rose to the challenge with enthusiasm and succeeded.
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>> On March 8, 2015 Baking Extravaganza,
>> - the Eco-Kalan team at Felipa Beach and SUMAPI Dumandan and Ayungon Visayan Forum clients baked and ate to their hearts' content.
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>> Warm regards,
>> Rebecca Arrieta Vermeer
>> Eco-Kalan Project in the Philippines
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