[Stoves] fate of emissions over time

[Huck Rorick]

Thanks to everyone for the responses.  I got some off line too.  It will take a while to absorb.

Thanks again.

Huck

 

From: Bodie Cabiyo [mailto:bodie.cabiyo at gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 8:01 AM
To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves
Subject: Re: [Stoves] fate of emissions over time

 

Hi Huck,

A quick answer below, but first, for the sake of not filling up everyone’s email boxes, I wanted to say I’m really grateful to this listserv – I have learned so much about cookstove design from everyone here. To top that off, I recently got some amazing feedback on my current TLUD project that jumpstarted my progress. I’m working on making the suggested modifications now. Thank you all!

 

There’s actually a pretty sizable body of research looking at that question – it’s an important one. I haven’t done much research on CO or methane, but I know that PM 2.5 has significant impacts on atmospheric and climatic processes. PM is mostly organic carbon and black carbon (soot), and the latter is considered the second strongest climate change driver after CO2. Black carbon comprises roughly 30% of PM 2.5, though estimates vary.

It’s estimated that about 80% of the PM 2.5 that produced from cooking makes it into the atmosphere and, though it has a lifespan on the order of days or weeks, it has big impacts on the climate. In places in India and China large “brown clouds” (creative name, right?) reside in the troposphere:  they’re vertically distributed but geographically-confined to near the source.

The climate science here gets a little complex, and I’m not sure I can adequately describe it in an email. Interestingly, there’s a cooling effect and a warming effect both. The cooling effect is a result of incoming solar radiation reflected by the brown clouds, while the warming effect is due to solar radiation absorbed by the black carbon, typically on snow. The latter effect is actually estimated to account for about a quarter of observed global warming. Additional to that, there’s speculated global effects that have to do with complex atmospheric cycles and cells, for example brown cloud cooling in China could actually result in warming in Canada. Go figure.

Naturally, traditional cookstoves are a big player in PM contributions and, by extension, in climate change, especially in areas that are adjacent to melting ice (i.e. the Himalayan glaciers). Dr. V. Ramanathan recently started a project in North India (Project Surya) which is working to translate black carbon and other non-CO2 emissions reductions into carbon credits for improved stove users. It seems like it makes the whole venture a lot more economically feasible. Supposedly addressing black carbon emissions is one of the most immediate and effective actions for combating climate change because it is such a strong driver and has such a short lifespan in the atmosphere.

Anyways, that’s a super short, cursory answer to your question. If you want to learn more check out the Wiki articles for Black Carbon and Asian Brown Clouds. If you want some literature, I can forward a few citations, too.


Best,

Bodie

 

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On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 11:32 PM, Huck Rorick <huckrorick at groundwork.org> wrote:

Can anyone tell me briefly or direct me to more information on what happens
with emissions other than CO2 over time?  E.g. CO, methane, PM2.5?  People
can breathe these in directly from the fire or indoor space.  Once they
enter the atmosphere what happens?  Do they go into the upper atmosphere,
evenly distributed, stay low?  Does PM2.5 precipitate?  I understand that
methane doesn't last so long as CO2.  What happens with CO?  I would be
grateful for a brief overview.

Thanks,

Huck


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