[Stoves] JED's breakthrough Re: Fuels of the future

Wed Sep 9 19:30:32 CDT 2015

Thanks a lot Dr. Paul These words are encouraging and coming from you
multiplies the encouragement.

Im writing a narrative of the anatomy of the stove. It now has come to
several pages and 6.5 MB. Now trying to downscale the size to 1.5 MB and
less. . There i explained all the processes that i installed - air, fuel,
heat... There are many things unknown as i only have limited tools and
equipments to measure the parameters.

Will get back to you with the narrative.

Regards

Jed.

*Joshua B. Guinto*Specialist, Appropriate Technology
MSc Management of AgroEcological Knowledge and Social Change (MAKS)
Wageningen University, The Netherlands 2006 to 2008
Recipient, International Fellowships Programme  Award (IFP) 2005
Ford Foundation

2015-09-07 17:59 GMT-07:00 Paul Anderson <psanders at ilstu.edu>:

> JED,
>
> Truly awesome!!!!!!!!!    [Based on very little information, but he tells
> us truly important info about fuel and boiling time and combustion
> technology.   This truly looks promising.]
>
> I suspect that you are on the verge of a major shift in cooking stoves.
> Your attachment with photos in your original message should be seen by
> all.    It will be soon placed on the    www.drtlud.com   website.
>
> What I am reading and interpreting is this:
>
> 1.  Abundant supply of a fuel that is appropriate in size, energy content,
> moisture, etc.   Literally an agricultural "refuse" for free or for the
> cost of transport.   Producers will start selling it, but it is already
> UNDER the price of other fuels, so the price will only rise to the level
> that the market will bear.
>
> 2.  A CERAMIC / MUD / CLAY stove, made by a master of clay stoves.   We
> would like to know the cost of the stove.   And how easily can it be made
> ?    Importance of clay is in next item.    And it should be able to handle
> numerous other appropriate biomass fuels, but doing just one (pili nut
> shells) is sufficient for starting and establishing what can be
> accomplished.
>
> 3.  You operate in TLUD mode (correctly characterized by the downward
> migratory pyrolytic fron MPF).   And then you continue to burn the created
> char while adding (please explain where and how) additional fuel.   The
> result is the high heat in the char-bed, but without the metal parts that
> are damaged by high heat.   Ceramics to the rescue!!!!   Continuous
> burning.
>
> 4.  Plus you are demonstrating the making of light.   Very nice.
>
> Best wishes.   Please tell us more.    And about the important issues of
> user acceptance.   Many of us are willing to be of assistance.   In some
> ways you are only scratching the surface of what you are demonstrating.
> Congratulations.
>
> And are you going to the GACC Forum in Ghana in November 10 - 13?
>
> Paul
>
> Doc  /  Dr TLUD  /  Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
> Email:  psanders at ilstu.edu
> Skype: paultlud      Phone: +1-309-452-7072
> Website:  www.drtlud.com
>
> On 9/7/2015 4:59 PM, Joshua Guinto wrote:
>
> Dear Crispin, Paul and everyone
>
> Let me jump into the conversation.Â
>
> I am now in the midst of the gasifier stove i am fabricating and the
> abundant supply of pili shells. PiliÂ *(canarium ovatum)*Â is an endemic
> species of my place here at the Bicol Region which is south of Manila. The
> shells Â are very much heavier than macadamia nuts and has a density of
> 0.87 grams/cm3. .Â
>
> Two days ago we began hauling 4 tons of the shells to become my stocks of
> fuel. I will sell the shells along with my PapaBrick Stove. And then, while
> we are hauling the shells, we were offered another 6 tons of shells from
> the neighbor farm, both in the same village. I used to purchase the shells
> from another village where to my best estimate, there is more than 10 tons
> per month that are very much underused. This supply is expected to increase
> as more farms have planted thousands of pili trees as the farmers got more
> awareness with the use of the shell for gasifier stoves.Â
>
> On the other hand, the PapaBrick Stove is giving us satisfying
> performance, now that we know better how to use it can perform as a TLUD
> gasifier stove during the cold start phase and then work as a rocket during
> the hot start phase in a continuous mode.Â
>
> One load receives 1.25 kg of the shells and runs for 75 minutes of very
> clean flame, boils 4 liter of water in 14 minutes during the cold start
> phase and then 9 minutes during the hot start phase.Â
>
> After the flame has gone out, we can harvest an average of 2.73 grams of
> char from the raw fuel of 1.25 kg or about 21 % recovery.
>
> Going further i fabricated a lantern on top of the stove. And it was very
> satisfying.Â
>
>
> Regards
>
> JEdÂ
>
>
> *Joshua B. Guinto *Specialist, Appropriate Technology
> MSc Management of AgroEcological Knowledge and Social Change (MAKS)
> Wageningen University, The Netherlands 2006 to 2008
> Recipient, International Fellowships ProgrammeÂ  Award (IFP) 2005
> Ford Foundation
>
>
> 2015-09-03 20:31 GMT-07:00 Paul Anderson <psanders at ilstu.edu>:
>
>> Crispin and all,
>>
>> Do you know of any location that has these shells and has access to TLUD
>> gasifiers?Â Â  The combination of these shells and TLUDs has great
>> potential, but only if someone somewhere puts the two together in a serious
>> project or venture.Â  I would be interested in having contact with people
>> in such situations.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> Doc  /  Dr TLUD  /  Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
>> Email:  psanders at ilstu.edu
>> Skype: paultlud      Phone: +1-309-452-7072
>> Website:  www.drtlud.com
>>
>> On 9/2/2015 6:01 PM, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott wrote:
>>
>> Dear Friends
>>
>> Her are two fuels that are abundant (in places) and really interesting to
>> work with. Both can be charcoaled and both are really strong.
>> Oil Palm Kernel Shells
>>
>>
>> And
>>
>>
>> Candle nut shells.
>>
>>
>> The price is something like $70 per ton. Moisture is low and energy ins
>> in the 18-19 MJ/kg range.Â  The can be burned in a TLUD to make charcoal,
>> and the charcoal is strong enough to sell in sacks.
>>
>>
>> The interesting about these fuels is they are not just available in many
>> thousands of tons, they pack quite well so a packed bed gasifier is a
>> pretty good burner.
>>
>>
>> For crossdraft and downdraft enthusiasts, they can also be used in
>> hoppers burning something and intermediate coal.
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Crispin
>>
>>
>>
>>
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