[Stoves] Travel and shared rides at Oregon events, includes Stove Camp and USBI and more

Paul Anderson psanders at ilstu.edu
Mon Aug 1 14:01:37 MDT 2016


Bruce and all,

I know that your arrival in Portland is too late to match up with Hugh 
McLaughlin for sharing ride with him.   Maybe others will contact you.

I have been to Crater Lake and it is FANTASTIC.  Even if not 
pre-arranged, some people at the Char gatthering might want to join you 
on that 1 day adventure.

Your message said you are returning to Portland on the 18th (which is 
actually your arrival date).   You probably meant Aug 25 or 26. There 
will be numerous people at the USBI meeting who might be seeking a ride 
on either date.

Thanks for sharing your travel plans and for your willingness to assist 
others.

Paul

Doc  /  Dr TLUD  /  Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Email:  psanders at ilstu.edu
Skype:   paultlud    Phone: +1-309-452-7072
Website:  www.drtlud.com

On 8/1/2016 9:14 AM, Bruce Stahlberg wrote:
> Greetings Paul and others,
>
> I have narrowed down my travel plans so decided to share in case it 
> works out to drive with someone or provide a ride.  I may rent a car 
> (leaning that way) and if so could provide a ride(s).
>
> The two events I will attend are the two days (Friday/Saturday) Char 
> Production Gathering in Cottage Grove and the BioChar conference in 
> Corvalis, OR.
>
> I will arrive at the Portland airport on August 18th, 3:00 PM.  Making 
> my way down to Cottage Grove on the 18th.
> After the CPG there is a small break before being in Corvalis for the 
> start of the conference.  I am considering a trip to Crater Lake (2.5 
> hours from Cottage Grove, 5 hours to Corvalis from Crater Lake) if I 
> end up renting a car but this is not set in stone.  If there was 
> interest it is a possibility.
>
> Will be returning to Portland on the 18th.
>
> If anyone wants to contact me for possible ride sharing call/text or 
> email.
>
> Thanks Paul for sending out this email.
>
> Bruce Stahlberg
> 612.558.5959
>
>
>
>     Bruce (message below) raises the question about ride sharing. 
>     This is a way for people to assist each other, so we need good
>     communications:
>
>     1.  TWO main categories:   Initial arrival        and      At
>     events/between events
>
>     2.  The easy one is "At and between events".   My experience is
>     that there are usually multiple cars with drivers willing to help
>     others.   You meet these people at the events and connections
>     happen easily. For the major shift (which is after the 3 events at
>     Cottage Grove) to go to Corvallis for the USBI conference, there
>     should be plenty of cars leaving sometime after 4 PM Saturday and
>     with arrival by Monday morning for USBI pre-conference events. 
>     Exactly when each vehicle is moving is not known. But people with
>     cars (and possibly a spare seat or two) include:
>     Paul Anderson
>     James Schoner
>     Paul Taylor
>     Tom Miles
>     Hugh McLaughlin
>     Kelpie Wilson
>     Norm Baker
>     Probably 3 or more others.    (please add your names if you could
>     help with transport)
>     Who rides with whom and when will be worked out/finalized on
>     Saturday.
>     NOTE:   What people do on Sunday 21 August is wide open.   I
>     suspect that people will match up according to their interests.
>
>     3.  The "Initial Arrival" issue is more complicated because of so
>     many different dates, times, places of arrival into Oregon.  
>     Eugene Oregon airport is maybe 20 minutes from Cottage Grove.  If
>     you are registering for one or more of the 3 events in Cottage
>     Grove, contact the organizers of each event, with information
>     about times of arrival.
>
>         Arrival at Portland airport is a bit further away.  But ride
>     sharing should be possible.
>
>     BEST if those who NEED transportation assistance tell us all when
>     you are arriving where.
>
>     4.  JUST IN CASE it might help some, note that some of us are
>     driving long distances (starting outside of Oregon) and perhaps
>     shared driving time and fuel costs might match someone's interests.
>     A.   Paul Anderson is driving from central Illinois on 7 or 8
>     August with arrival in Cottage Grove on Wed. 10 August.
>     B.   James Schoner is driving from central Arizona
>     C.   Norm Baker is coming from Seattle, but might have a full
>     vehicle already.
>     D.   Several others (unknown)
>
>     Doc  /  Dr TLUD  /  Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
>     Email:psanders at ilstu.edu <mailto:psanders at ilstu.edu>
>     Skype:   paultlud    Phone:+1-309-452-7072 <tel:%2B1-309-452-7072>
>     Website:www.drtlud.com <http://www.drtlud.com>
>
>     On 7/19/2016 12:22 PM, Affordable Energy wrote:
>>     Paul
>>
>>     It would be helpful for possible ride sharing between events if
>>     there could be coordination between attendees. I could either be
>>     looking for a ride or possibly rent and therefore be able to
>>     offer a ride.
>>
>>     Any ideas on how to put attendees in touch with one another?  My
>>     email can be shared with my permission.
>>
>>     Thanks and see you in AUGUST.
>>
>>     Bruce
>>
>>     Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>     On Jul 18, 2016, at 11:24 PM, Paul Anderson <psanders at ilstu.edu
>>     <mailto:psanders at ilstu.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>>     Mike,
>>>
>>>     Thanks for that info about Stove Camp 2016.   That info will be
>>>     made available also at my website where there is info and links
>>>     to ALL FOUR stove and biochar event between 11 and 25 August
>>>     (first three in Cottage Grove Oregon, and then US Biochar
>>>     Initiative conference in Corvallis, Oregon.
>>>     1.  Stove Summit
>>>     2.  Stove Camp
>>>     3.  Char Production Gathering (CPG)
>>>     4.  USBI
>>>
>>>     I will be at all 4 events and look forward to seeing many of you
>>>     there.
>>>
>>>     Paul
>>>     Doc  /  Dr TLUD  /  Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
>>>     Email:psanders at ilstu.edu <mailto:psanders at ilstu.edu>
>>>     Skype:   paultlud    Phone:+1-309-452-7072 <tel:%2B1-309-452-7072>
>>>     Website:www.drtlud.com <http://www.drtlud.com>
>>>     On 7/18/2016 3:29 PM, Mike Hatfield wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     *Stove Camp August 15 - 19, 2016*
>>>>
>>>>     *Aprovecho Research Center*
>>>>
>>>>     *Cottage Grove, Oregon*
>>>>
>>>>     ·As always, Stove Camp will give folks a chance to test stoves
>>>>     with the two emissions hoods.
>>>>
>>>>     ·Two classes per day include how to make 5 new ‘Tier 4’ stoves
>>>>     developed with DOE funding.
>>>>
>>>>     ·Learn from Kirk Harris and Dr. TLUD how to make a new
>>>>     generation of super clean TLUDs with turn down!
>>>>
>>>>     ·See PM 2.5 lowered 75% with inexpensive filters!
>>>>
>>>>     A $250 prize is awarded to the team that makes the most
>>>>     progress, proven by testing here in the lab, on the creation of
>>>>     a $10 ‘Tier 4’ stove.
>>>>
>>>>     Food will be purchased and prepared by the campers (to keep
>>>>     costs as low as possible) on TLUDs, forced draft stoves,
>>>>     retained heat cookers, beautiful new ovens, Rocket stoves,
>>>>     charcoal stove, etc. There will be lots of music, great
>>>>     conversation, contemplative walks in the new Lazy Path Garden,
>>>>     watching the moon and stars, and swimming in the river 300
>>>>     yards from the lab.
>>>>
>>>>     The cost is $400 for the week. Camp on site (free) or stay in
>>>>     town in a motel.
>>>>
>>>>     For all details contact: mike at aprovecho.org
>>>>     <mailto:mikehatfield at aprovecho.org>
>>>>
>>>>     *Stove**Camp 2016 Schedule*
>>>>
>>>>     76132 Blue Mountain School Road
>>>>     Cottage Grove, OR 97424
>>>>     541 767 0287 <tel:541%20767%200287> www.aprovecho.org
>>>>     <http://www.aprovecho.org/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     "Go east on Mosby Creek Road from Cottage Grove. Do not take
>>>>     the big left turn but continue straight up the hill on Blue
>>>>     Mountain School Road. We’re in the school buildings across from
>>>>     the park on the river.”
>>>>
>>>>     *Sunday August 14*
>>>>
>>>>     Arrive and set up camp. Meet Dean Still and the interns, have a
>>>>     cup of great coffee, watch the river, read Sam Baldwin's
>>>>     chapter on heat transfer (Biomass Stoves: Engineering Design,
>>>>     Development, and Dissemination on the web). Make dinner with
>>>>     other campers on modern wood fired stoves.
>>>>
>>>>     *Monday August 15*
>>>>
>>>>     Breakfast: Campers make breakfast on wood burning stoves. Don’t
>>>>     burn the oatmeal!
>>>>
>>>>     *9-10:00am *Introductions.**Discuss/Create Agenda. Join a
>>>>     scientific team to win the prize! Create the best $10 ‘Tier 4’
>>>>     stove. Voting at end of week by campers.
>>>>
>>>>     *10:00- 11am* Dr. Larry Winiarski on Rocket Design Principles**
>>>>
>>>>     *11am-12am*Kirk Harris and Dr. Paul Anderson explain new
>>>>     advances with TLUDs
>>>>
>>>>     *12-2pm*Make Lunch/Discussion/Collaboration
>>>>
>>>>     *2-4pm* Introduction to testing equip (Lab Hood, WBT, CCT and
>>>>     Test Kitchen). Test stoves under the emission hoods!
>>>>
>>>>     *4-5pm* The new Department of Energy project ‘Tier 4’ stoves!
>>>>     (Dean)
>>>>
>>>>     *5-7pm* Make Dinner, Music, and Frivolity
>>>>
>>>>     *Tuesday August 16*
>>>>
>>>>     Breakfast: Campers make breakfast on wood burning stoves.
>>>>
>>>>     *7-9am*Breakfast. Campers make breakfast on wood burning stoves.
>>>>
>>>>     *9--9:30am*Discuss number crunching from previous day’s testing
>>>>     (Sam, Dennis, Jessie)
>>>>
>>>>     *9-30 -10:30am* Charcoal stoves, Filters, and Retained Heat
>>>>     (Dean, Sam)
>>>>
>>>>     *10:30 – 12am* Test stoves and teams start to make $10 “Tier 4”
>>>>     stoves with ARC staff and Dr. TLUD
>>>>
>>>>     *12-2pm *Make Lunch/Discussion/Collaboration
>>>>
>>>>     *2pm to 4pm *Test stoves and make stoves with ARC staff and Dr.
>>>>     TLUD
>>>>
>>>>     *4-5pm*Field Experiences (Mike and Sam)
>>>>     *5-7pm* – Pizza Party - BBQ – Music - Great conversation.
>>>>
>>>>     *Wednesday August 17*
>>>>
>>>>     *7-9am*Breakfast: Campers make breakfast on wood burning stoves.
>>>>
>>>>     *9-9:30am*Discuss number crunching from previous day (Sam)
>>>>
>>>>     *9:30-10:30am* Heat Transfer & Combustion Efficiency (Dean)
>>>>
>>>>     *10:30am-12*Building and testing stoves with ARC staff and Dr. TLUD
>>>>
>>>>     *12-2pm *Make Lunch/Discussion/Collaboration
>>>>
>>>>     *2-3pm* Talk on stove politics/stove dissemination (Dean, Mike,
>>>>     Fred)
>>>>
>>>>     *3-5pm*Continue building and testing with ARC staff, Kirk
>>>>     Harris, and Dr. TLUD
>>>>
>>>>     *5-7pm *Make Dinner, Music, and Frivolity
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     *Thursday, August 18*
>>>>
>>>>     *7-9am* Breakfast: Campers make breakfast on wood burning stoves.
>>>>
>>>>     *9-9:30am*Discuss number crunching from previous day (Sam)
>>>>
>>>>     *9:30-10:30am* $10 ‘Tier 4’ Stoves! What are we learning? (Dean)
>>>>
>>>>     *10:30am-12*Building and testing stoves with ARC staff, Kirk
>>>>     Harris, and Dr. TLUD
>>>>
>>>>     *12-2pm *Make Lunch/Discussion/Collaboration
>>>>
>>>>     *2-3pm* Experiences with TLUDs (Paul)
>>>>
>>>>     *3-5pm*Iterations of team stoves and testing with ARC staff,
>>>>     Kirk Harris, and Dr. TLUD
>>>>
>>>>     *5-7pm *Bread Night at the Axe and Fiddle!
>>>>
>>>>     *Friday August 19*
>>>>
>>>>     *7-9am*Breakfast: Campers make breakfast on wood burning stoves.
>>>>
>>>>     *9-10:30am*Discuss number crunching from previous day. How far
>>>>     did we get?
>>>>
>>>>     *10:30am-12:00*Presentation of stoves by
>>>>     inventors/Discussion/Voting for prize!
>>>>
>>>>     *12:00* Presentation of award
>>>>
>>>>     We go change the world one stove at a time. Keep in touch and
>>>>     help our friends!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     -- 
>>>>     Mike Hatfield
>>>>     Director of International Projects
>>>>     (541) 767-0287 <tel:%28541%29%20767-0287> (Office)
>>>>     (541) 357-9857 (cell)
>>>>     Aprovecho Research Center
>>>>     www.aprovecho.org <http://www.aprovecho.org/> (stoves)
>>>>     www.aprovecho.net <http://www.aprovecho.net> (education center)
>>>>
>>>>     Statistically, the probability of any one of us being here is
>>>>     so small that you'd think the mere fact of existing would keep
>>>>     us all in a contented dazzlement of surprise -Lewis Thomas
>>>>
>>>>     The known is finite, the unknown infinite, intellectually we
>>>>     stand on an islet in the mist of an illimitable ocean of
>>>>     inexplicability.  Our business in every generation is to
>>>>     reclaim a little more land   - T. H. Huxley
>>>>
>>>>
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> 3008 41st Ave South
> Minneapolis, MN  55406
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