[Stoves] Off-topic: Pictures and perceptions - GACC at Imperial Hotel, New Delhi

[Ronal W. Larson]

Nikhil,  cc list

	I write this to be supportive of GACC.  See below


> On Oct 31, 2016, at 2:40 PM, Traveller <miata98 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> It is really an neo-imperial enterprise, it seems.  
	RWL:  To me it seems like a great way to draw attention to both the need for and the availability of improved stoves.   I understand the word “imperial”, but “neo”?   (Aside - my computer changed your “neo” to “net”.  )
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> Because images influence perceptions. GACC is in the business of raising money and earning bonuses.
	[RWL:  I think preconceptions influence “perceptions”    I believe the stove world is much better off with GACC - who is drawing attention to a problem some people just can’t see.   Obviously “raising money” - but I have seen no reference to “bonuses”;  your evidence of that?

	
> The image of three Indian women crouching in front of mostly European Whites says more than the earlier item at the White House. 
	[RWL:  It seems likely to me that this is a very normal way for women cooks to sit (not “crouch”) in front of their stoves.  I’ll have to research “earlier” - which I gather was disappointing to you.
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> This is poverty pornography. Just like those images of women cooking in dark, smokey places. While the queens of Chappaqua and Washington, DC seek to rule the cooking world of the poor. 
	[RWL:  Obviously, pornography is in the eye of the beholder.   Personally,  I fail to understand how a photograph of a smokey kitchen is pornography.   I am beginning to understand your politics however - so thank you for further “Chappaqua” evidence of that.
	How about telling us how you would have handled this photo-op to draw appropriate attention to the need for stove improvements?

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> GACC said, “At a private demonstration held at Delhi’s Imperial Hotel, the chefs learned how sustained use of clean cookstoves and fuels can save lives, improve livelihoods, empower women, and protect the environment."
	RWL:  Since you don’t comment on it - should we assume you do or do not object to the caption: ‘ save lives, improve livelihoods, empower women, and protect the environment.”  ?
	 My guess is that you couldn’t figure out a way to be negative.
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> Yeah. The Imperial Hotel is a great example itself - employs a lot of women, and has grown trees around. 
	RWL:   I fail to understand this - but am pretty sure it is meant to be derogatory to GACC.  You would have recommended holding this photo-op where?  You think stove list members equate “grown trees” with “protect the environment”?


> If anybody happens to be in New Delhi, I suggest a lunch at the Imperial, probably around $15 plus tip per person, no alcohol. Roam around in the hotel and you will discover interesting historical titbits. 
	[RWL:  I guessed  this was a straight statement - until I discovered my computer had initially changed “titbits” to “tidbits”.  Now I am totally uncertain what your point is/was.

	In sum - you have continued to disappoint me.   You have an antipathy to GACC that simply baffles me.  It would be better for GACC to have never been formed?       Ron

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