[Stoves] News 9 September 2016: Biofuels "worse than petrol" for the environment, new study finds (Crispin Pemberton-Pigott)

Traveller miata98 at gmail.com
Fri Sep 9 22:18:38 CDT 2016


Crispin:

I am faintly aware of that beran-counting - net energy analysis, fossil
content, whatever.

Never understood why anybody should bother.

Not all PJs are the same. Nothing wrong eating oil.

When 5,000 of these dung stoves sell in Bishkek, I hope you get the funds
to test and sell another 5,000 some 5,000 times over.



N


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> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 21:39:09 +0600
> From: Crispin Pemberton-Pigott <crispinpigott at outlook.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Stoves] News 9 September 2016: Biofuels "worse than
>         petrol" for the environment, new study finds
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> Dear Nikhil
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> The article stimulated a large number of comments at wattsupwiththat.com
> ?when it first came out. The best analyses come from the attempts to do an
> energy accounting of any biofuel system. The surprising result is that
> biofuels contain a lot of energy that comes from fossil fuels.
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> As Cecil says, we are eating oil.
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> And speaking of biofuels, we tested the first of the dung burning stoves
> in Bishkek this afternoon, the first of two. The power control was
> stunning, apparently, as reviewed by the workshop staff. The most impressed
> was the guy who uses dung exclusively at home on the range. He found the
> air controller was also a volume control. Fine power control is requisite
> for making 'plof' which has a high power phase for 20 minutes then a very
> low power for the duration.
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> The stove will cost about $30. ?It is simple in the extreme. It is lined
> with recycled boiler lining bricks.
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> Regards
> Crispin
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