[Stoves] Stoves Digest, Vol 80, Issue 1

Michael N Trevor mntrevor at gmail.com
Sat Apr 1 14:57:55 CDT 2017


My experience using a TLUD as a charcoal burner is a good way to destroy
it. as a forge you burn out the bottom.

On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 6:27 AM, Norman Baker <ntbakerphd at gmail.com> wrote:

> Well said Dr TLUD!
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> Norm Baker
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> On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 11:00 AM, <stoves-request at lists.bioenergylists.org>
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>>    1. Research errors continue, but TLUDs are NOT charcoal-burning
>>       stoves (Paul Anderson)
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>> Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2017 10:42:17 -0500
>> From: Paul Anderson <psanders at ilstu.edu>
>> To: Stoves and biofuels network <Stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org>
>> Subject: [Stoves] Research errors continue, but TLUDs are NOT
>>         charcoal-burning stoves
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>> Dear Stovers,
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>> I have been asked to review an academic research article about about
>> gasifier stoves.  I will not identify the journal, title or give the
>> abstract that I have read.
>>
>> More than once I have seen the type of error mentioned below. Academic
>> reserachers are not stove users, but they think they understand
>> everything.  Basically, they make faulty assumptions. The do MUCH work,
>> of which 30% to 60% should not have been done, and then they want to
>> publish it.
>>
>> My objective in this message is to spread the word to everyone, and to
>> not be the reviewer who can only relay anonymous comments to a couple of
>> people can ignore them or be overridden byt the journal editors, and
>> months from now it gets printed, and THEN I would need to send this
>> message.
>>
>> This is what I sent back to the editors of the journal.
>>
>> I decline to be a reviewer because I feel that there are fundamental
>> misconceptions of how these TLUD (micro-gasifiers) should be used. For
>> example (and specifically about this article), there should NOT be any
>> "second stage" which is the combustion of the charcoal after pyrolysis
>> has finished.  That means that about 40% of the research should not even
>> have been conducted, and certainly not reported in the article.  As
>> written, this misleads stove users.  I am sure that other reviewers (who
>> are researchers as are the authors) will accept the manuscript, because
>> they do not know TLUD stove usage, or that charcoal burning should be
>> very near the pot, not down many centimeters where the charcoal would be
>> burned in a TLUD stove.  I am thankful for research being done because
>> some (60%) of the work is worthwhile, but I do not want to be a reviewer
>> of such work.  You may share my comments and name with the authors.
>> Paul S. Anderson, PhD.  Known as "Dr TLUD"  psanders at ilstu.edu
>>
>> *************
>> Paul
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>> Doc  /  Dr TLUD  /  Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
>> Email:  psanders at ilstu.edu
>> Skype:   paultlud    Phone: +1-309-452-7072
>> Website:  www.drtlud.com
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